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flyingkangaroo 11-27-2008 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 506776)
not to hijack the thread but at eagle in the northeast on reserve we're flying like 10-20 hours a month...this month i've flown twice for a total of 7 hrs...there's no flying to do yet they have a buncha guys on reserve everyday...it sucks....we re hearing they may hire in january...or they may hire in july...who knows

Yeah ASA is extremely overstaffed. Maybe the 700 has some low coverage days but as a whole we have hundreds more pilots then we need. The truth is they should have stopped hiring somewhere around dec 2007 but i don't think that they saw the slowdown coming as quick as it did.

The last alpa fast read says that the company recognizes they are overstaffed by 100-350 pilots. I think 350 is a little bit much but im sure they will reevaluate the pilot staffing model once all the ATR guys are through training. I would put us about 150-200 pilots overstaffed. If we lose anymore flying the company will have to furlough, they will have no choice.

I want to bring up the point that with the loss of the ATR we thought we would at least be retaining the ATR flight hours. Now it looks like Mesaba will take those routes. Delta will be in violation of to major aspects of the contract. The total airplanes will be violated as they fall below 151 and the 80% of ATL flying will also be in violation. Delta was at 80% before the loss of the ATRs, now we have to be below it. I'm sure ASA has been speaking to Delta about this and the truth is Delta hasn't been doing well in court. If Skywest does feel the need to excercise some muscle I think delta would be forced to fulfill the contract terms or at least renegotiate a contract that is beneficial for both sides.

JT8D 11-28-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 506776)
not to hijack the thread but at eagle in the northeast on reserve we're flying like 10-20 hours a month...this month i've flown twice for a total of 7 hrs...there's no flying to do yet they have a buncha guys on reserve everyday...it sucks....we re hearing they may hire in january...or they may hire in july...who knows

Yea this is freakin ridiculous... I have no reason or desire to be in NYC except to sit reserve. After all the time I've spent here I've flown under 10 hours this month. Way to go crew planning...

Aeropug16 11-28-2008 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by JT8D (Post 507642)
Yea this is freakin ridiculous... I have no reason or desire to be in NYC except to sit reserve. After all the time I've spent here I've flown under 10 hours this month. Way to go crew planning...


At least, like myself here at ASA, you have a job

XJkid 11-29-2008 08:49 AM

bet you guys wished you had come to mesaba right about now to fly the 9's we got from you...

deltamd90 11-29-2008 01:45 PM

Again its not a 9, unless you fly the DC-9 and i doubt any of us wish we were at mesaba!!!

ThunderChicken 11-29-2008 02:09 PM

Mesaba might be one of the only airlines that is growing right now, but they are by no means the "decent airline" to be at right now. What the heck is your deal?

vtbvtdk 12-01-2008 12:40 PM

ASA Overstaffed
 
Since the other thread was shut down, I thought we could start up another one and discuss the original material. Please don't post on here if you have anything pertaining to the argument on the old thread. Both sides were in violation of the forum rules, so let's just leave the closure of the thread as closure for the topic and move on.

SO!.....Anyone have any more insight on the overstaffing at ASA? Discuss....

skatergeek 12-01-2008 12:59 PM

I heard that ASA is accepting resumes now...I find that odd since most ASA pilots I talk to say you guys are very overstaffed. Any truth to that rumor?

USMC3197 12-01-2008 01:10 PM

ASA has never really stopped accepting resumes. We are overstaffed, I am looking at RES for ATLEAST another year. There is over 100 people on RES in just the 200. The last of the ATR guys are now comming to the CRJ, today is the last ATR flight.

HSLD 12-01-2008 01:11 PM

Thread re-opened.

Please don't feed the trolls.


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