I had the exact same conclusion when I read his #1 post. But after thinking about it, what he/she is asking is if Eagle will get additional CRJ-700s.

Apparently we have been given the "release" (so to speak) to purchase another 25 CRJ-700's. Or is it worded as we have got the permission to get 25 aircraft which seat more than 50 seats? I would be interested in knowing how its worded. Cus if it is worded like that it could open up doors for aircraft over 70 seats.

I think there is absolutely more to the story than we we hear or know. I think there is always something in the mix. Eagle just sold all ATR's to a European financial firm, the ATRs were pure liquid assets as there are owned, so now we sold them and leasing them back. AMR has now $203million additional in cash. Not a ton of money for an airline but I am curious if something is in the works, like cash to start picking up new aircraft. It's entirely possible for AA to use that money for down payments on the 787's they intend to purchase? Or could just be a buffer in their bank. Who knows!

I dont see Eagle getting any new or additional aircraft. We just parked our Saabs and several EMB's. We're not seeing any indications of expansion.

In fact, posted 12/03/2008 "American Airlines and its feeder carrier American Eagle plan to cut capacity 6 percent next year, with an 8.5 reduction in U.S. flying by American itself, said Beverly Goulet, treasurer of parent AMR Corp."

I wrote more than i wanted....sorry. This is what happens when you work for Eagle and sit Reserve Availability everyday and not touch a plane You end up on APC.

 

Now doing ORD-XNA-LAX-XNA-ORD with the -700. ORD-ABQ (used to be MD-80) and several others that used to be MD-80, I think include ORD-New Orleans, among other routes. Sorry AA guys...

 

[QUOTE=2Co2Fur1EXwife;511855] Thought I would try to get you some answers flyboy275...

"FORT WORTH, Texas – American Eagle reported a November load factor of 67.3 percent – down 4.8 points compared to the same period last year. Traffic decreased 21.5 percent year over year as capacity decreased 15.9 percent.

As AMR reported a slim profit for the third quarter of 2008, Eagle is focused on becoming "Top Tier" in the regional industry. AMR Corporation reported a third quarter net profit of $45 million, including several special items, such as the sale of American Beacon Advisors. Without these special items, the company lost $360 million. This compares to a net profit of $175 million for the same period last year.

A unit of American Airlines parent AMR Corp. will sell and lease back 39 planes in a transaction worth some $200 million to AMR, the companies said on Tuesday."

"American Eagle boarded 1.4 million passengers in November, down 20.4%.

American - $6,421,000,000 operating revenue and corporate Pre-tax loss of
$360,000,000"

LOOKS TO ME LIKE A COMPANY WHOSE DESPERATE FOR MONEY. I THINK AMR HAS SOME EXCELLENT FINANCIAL ANALYSTS FOR THEIR INDUSTRY, PLUS AMR HAS NEVER BEEN BANKRUPTED, CORRECT? AMR CANT MAKE MONEY IN THEIR BUSINESS "PASSENGER TRAVEL" SO THEY HAVE TO SELL ASSETS.

are you an employee flyboy275? we are losing money. Is any business, including outside of airline industry making "steady quarterly profits"?

 

Nope, it's average seating of 50... the 135's and 140's with less seats let them run the 70 seat CRJ's. Something I don't think anybody has looked at is that with Eagle claiming to be parking several 135's... what will that do to the average seat count? It should go up... might be interesting to see if by parking the 135's they go over the average 50 seat limit.

We don't want them. We already have 70 seat jets so the 170 doesn't do anything for us.... and the 190 belongs on mainline, with better pay, work rules and quality of life. When the regional planes get big enough to cover mainline routes.... mainline companies outsource the flying al la Midwest. Good jobs gone, replaced by crappy regional rates and rules. Helping the race to the bottom is not something the vast majority of Eagle pilots would want...

parking 10 135's is NOT most of the smaller ERJ's... it is slightly less than than one third... and since the 10 ERJ 145's that were leased to TSA are comming back, there is no net loss of jet aircraft. Well, actually, TSA cracked one up.... so only nine will come back.... net loss one plane.

 

WOOAH WOOAH WOOAH...Say what? ...explain

 

Agreed, they will try. The current Eagle scope won't allow them to do it now. Baically, whatever outside flying there is, is ALL there can be. The contract requires them to grow Eagle before outsourcing. Is was repeated by the company itself during the 2002 TSA arbitration... the companies position was that Eagle was in maximum growth mode already and could not ramp up any more, or fast enough to cover the additional flying...
However, that being said, and a precedent being there doesn't mean they won't take a page from the Midwest/Republic play book and do it anyway... and fight it in court/arbitration for a few years before being told they can't do it.

 

It's old news....

the way I heard it the airframe was bent, and the insurance company was going to call it a total.... was probably insured for less than it should have been, so the insurance companies will pay out on them, then part them out... not sure of the final disposition, but last I heard that plane wasn't coming back... so, I'd be willing to bet it was way underinsured (hull wise) and the ins co is going to make out on the deal.

 

Thanks for all of your answers guys...


I had no idea load factors had been down that much for Eagle, thats surprising to me, i fly them quite a bit and its usually pretty rough getting space available.

Well with the E190s being a viable option, do you guys think that AA mainline is going to pick up some of them? There is such a gap there isnt there? I mean their smallest aircraft now is the fuel eating MD-80. The F-100's are gone, so perhaps getting ahold of some 190s would do AA some good.....


And i had no idea about that average 50 seat rule, and thought that eagle parked way more of the smaller ERJs..........

No im not an employee, but Eagle is up there with my first choices of airlines to fly for. I dont get out of college until august.....so i have some time to get my apps in.

 

couldnt be more wrong. that plane was back in service the next day, and you will be getting it back. just flew it two days ago as a matter of fact. there was barely any damage to begin with, some paint scraped. might wanna check your sources. i love how misinformation spreads like an std.

 

No one can say what is going to happen with aircraft. Only Aprey and his associates know. All we can do is think of happy thoughts of flying new airplanes with new gadgets up front and the new "car smell". I dont see AA getting a whole bunch of new airplanes. They "may" slowly get ride of the MD-80s but new airplanes cost a ton of money...I have read comments of 787 orders. I think AMR might focus on int'l travel to keep up with Delta.

Good luck! Why Eagle? I know at first you have a strong desire to work for one airline. But I think this can be a mistake. Dont do it. Definitely apply to Eagle, but really keep your avenues open. I am just going to assume you want to work for Eagle because you live at one of their domiciles? I am happy with the company as a whole, but as I am sure you have read and heard, PIC time on your resume is very important, not to mention the pay raise you get. It can be difficult to break $38K at Eagle as an FO. When I was hired in March 08 the junior captain was 7-8 years away and now the company has displaced several CA's to FO, so upgrade has probably migrated to about 10 years. Apply with what ever airline is hiring but at the same time dont just settle for one. I live in DEN and was interested in Great Lakes and Mesa but would never touch them.

Thanks flyinaway411. Reassuring...Another spreading STD is that Eagle MX has a lot of work to do on all the TSA aircraft, since they have different MX standards.