10 of Mesaba CR9's going to ASA
12-30-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
Look at this..... « on: Today at 03:37:42 PM »
MESABA AIRLINESDecember 29, 2008
Fellow colleagues:
Early last month, Mesaba announced continued growth for our regional jet fleet with the addition of 15 CRJ-900 aircraft beginning in January 2009. This allotment resulted from our excellent operational performance, outstanding safety record, and demonstrated ability to facilitate rapid expansion while maintaining our low cost structure.
Recently, we were informed that Delta Connection will re-allocate 10 of these aircraft to Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA), as a part of their global strategy. Through this business agreement, ASA will remove 20 of their less efficient CRJ-200 aircraft from the Delta Connection fleet.
I want to be clear that this decision is not reflective of Mesaba, but rather an opportunity for Delta Connection to “right-size” its fleet for future market growth. Our strategy remains the same – provide safe, reliable service to our passengers, and manage our costs. This strategy has led to rapid growth for our airline in 2007 and 2008, and growth that will continue in 2009.
Mesaba will take delivery of five Delta CRJ-900s, (as originally planned) three on February 12 and two on February 19. Also beginning on February 19, we will operate all five aircraft from Salt Lake City, serving eight markets from Delta’s western hub. This acquisition allows us to become the largest operator of 76-seat aircraft in the Delta family, evidence that our core business structure remains strong.
While the reduced aircraft allotment may appear disappointing, the reality is that our airline continues to grow. We have continued to expand aggressively – adding 52 aircraft in the past 19 months – as other carriers are cutting back. While we have currently suspended hiring additional flight crews, we do not anticipate any furloughs to occur because of this decision, at this time.
This remains an exciting time for our airline as we stretch our service westward and continue to expand our fleet. I thank you, once again, for your dedication and service to Mesaba Airlines
Regards
John Spanjers
President
Mesaba Airlines
IOOO BLUE GENTIAN ROAD, SUITE 2OO, EAGAN, MN 55I2I
This comes from the Mesaba Pilots website. More Delta games. Looks like anyone can be a COMAIR.
12-30-2008, 01:14 PM
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Section 1
SCOPE
SCOPE
Amend Section 1 B. 28. to:
Delete all references to Alaska and AS hub to hub baseline ratios. Amend Section 1 B. 40. to read:
40. "Permitted aircraft type" means:
a. a propeller-driven aircraft configured with 70 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 70,000 or fewer pounds, and
b. a jet aircraft certificated for operation in the United States for 50 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 65,000 or fewer pounds, and
c. one of up to 255 jet aircraft configured with 51-70 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less ("70-seat jets"), and
d. one of up to 120 jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less ("76-seat jets"). The number of 76-seat jets may be increased above 120 by three 76-seat jets for each aircraft above the number of aircraft in the baseline fleet operated by the Company (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares) as of CBAID. The baseline fleet number will be 440+N, in which N is the number of aircraft (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares but not including permitted aircraft types) added to the Company’s baseline fleet from NWA. The number and type of all aircraft in the Company’s fleet on CBAID will be provided to the Association. The number of 70-seat jets plus 76-seat jets permitted by Section 1 B. 40. may not exceed 255.
Exception: Up to the 36 EMB-175s that were operated and/or ordered by Northwest prior to CBAID may continue to be operated with up to a maximum gross takeoff weight of 89,000 pounds.
e. once the number of permitted 76-seat jets is established, it will not be reduced. Exception one: If a pilot on the seniority list with an employment date prior to September 1, 2001 is placed on furlough, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70-seat jets.
Exception two: In the event the flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 and LOA 2006-14 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats specified in Section 1 B. 40. d. will revert to 85.
f. a carrier that operates any of the 70- or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004, may do so only if that carrier and the Company have agreed to terms for a preferential hiring process for pilots furloughed by the Company (i.e., a pilot furloughed by the Company will be given preferential hiring at a Delta Connection Carrier if he completes all new hire paper work, meets all new hire airman and medical qualifications, satisfies background checks and successfully completes an interview). The Company will offer preferential interviews for employment to airmen employed by a Delta Connection Carrier that offers preferential hiring to furloughed pilots under Section 1 B. 40. e., subject to the Company’s objectives for diversity and experience among newly hired pilots, and subject to the Company’s hiring obligations under the NWA CBA LOAs as they appear in Attachment C (i.e. NWA LOA 2006-10, 2006-14, and 2008-01). A pilot hired by a Delta Connection Carrier operating any of the 70- or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004 will not be required to resign his Delta seniority number in order to be hired by such carrier. Preferential hiring rights at Delta Connection Carriers for pilots furloughed by the Company provided herein will be in addition to any flow down rights such furloughed pilots may have pursuant to the NWA CBA LOAs as they appear in Attachment C (i.e. NWA LOA 2006-10, 2006-14, and 2008-01).
12-30-2008, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xj200capt
Funny how for the past month Mesaba has been called all kinds of nasty things for STEALING flying when it appears that the pilots of ASA have just sold out 20 200's for 10 900's.
I just want to say that we are all pawns and that before you guys started accusing us (XJ) for compromising our contract and pay to get flying, we didn't. Just like I know that NONE of the pilots of ASA had anything to do with the 900 fiasco currently taking place.
I just want to say that we are all pawns and that before you guys started accusing us (XJ) for compromising our contract and pay to get flying, we didn't. Just like I know that NONE of the pilots of ASA had anything to do with the 900 fiasco currently taking place.
12-30-2008, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
If they cancel the Compass flowdown, the number of 71-76 seaters drops from 120 to 85. That happens even if Compass is sold, and the flowdown is then cancelled. FWIW.
For the record I dont' know what scope protections DAL has either.
12-30-2008, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
If they cancel the Compass flowdown, the number of 71-76 seaters drops from 120 to 85. That happens even if Compass is sold, and the flowdown is then cancelled. FWIW.
12-30-2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by contrail67
They are not going to get Mesaba too big.....much was learned from the Comair strike....they will make sure all the regionals are about the same size......Mesaba really is not much bigger than when all the AVROS were there....it is just regional airline games....played by the driver of the ship.
You might have a point there. That's why I think DAL will start to parcel out SLC flights to different regionals instead of concentrating it with Skywest. Each regionals will probably stay about the same size or if too big will get downsized by DAL.
12-30-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
It must be nice to be able to see into the future like that and know for a fact how everything is going to play out.
Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
Well said. No one should claim to know how it will playout unless their father is Richard Anderson. This right sizing fleet concept will bring lot more heartaches to many more regionals in 2009 and beyond. No such thing as an ironclad contract with DCIs.
Happy New Year
12-30-2008, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
It's Flowthru agreement not flow down. Flow down only occurs if DAL starts to furlough. At any case why would DAL cancel Compass Flowthru program. It would not be in their best interest. I think Compass will not be sold anytime soon and their flowthru program will probably remain intact at least for 2009. Same with Mesaba Flowthru agreement.
. I agree with you, I was just making a point.
12-30-2008, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Thanks for turning the glass over, it's now half full again. . I agree with you, I was just making a point.
. I agree with you, I was just making a point.
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