I'll fly 75 or less to keep guys off the street, it's a shame you can't cut back enough to do the same. How do you plan on retiring if you need an extra $200 a month? Or is that your retirement money?

Anyways, to answer Tony's comments. There was an FO in my new hire class who shouldn't have made it through new hire class. They got him on IOE during upgrade after being on the airplane for 1.5 years. Some people can't cut it. Just like everyone can't be a doctor, not everyone can fly airplanes to an airline standard.

So what is the deal with the website? Someone on our company forums mentioned that nothing has changed with our website and the fact we are hiring. He said they just re-posted it for 2009. I thought we pulled that off of the website once people were put in the pool. Can anyone clarify one way or the other?

The only way SKW will get Mesa flying is if we go TU. We just put out a standing bid that downgraded 50 CA's and moved around another 100 F/O's. This means were fat for the flying we have, and are cutting costs.

BK would result in SKW, ASA RAH, and the others fighting it out to see who can do our old flying for the lowest price.

TU.... or any other way the airline can find to break the contract (aka Delta).



Of course. I didn't suggest SkW would have exclusivity, but they most definitely would have a piece of the pie.

What's the point? If he "shouldn't have made it", then why did he 1.5 years ago? What if he had never upgraded? Then he'd be "unworthy" for 20 years? What if he tranistioned to another airframe, and failed? He goes back to his previous "unworthy" seat. If you're suggesting that SkW just passes everybody through new hire, you're sadly mistaken.

And based on your suggestion, since I failed upgrade, I should just pack my flying bags and find a new career. Like you said, not everybody is cut out for this job.


https://www.ultirecruit.com/sky1000/.../ListJobs.aspx

That's been an easy and cheap endeavor for them, so I understand why it would be attractive to a struggling United and USAirways.

I wouldn't bet money on UA/US following DL's example, only saying it's certainly on the table.

I would bet the contract would be dropped in BK.

B.B. from sapa forums?

haha. thats funny. relying on the policy manual? now that you've posted this they'll probably change it by tomorrow.

#1 I always thought slappy was a new F/O based on his apparent inexperience and arrogance, but I'm noticing the similarities as well.

#2 As I point out to anyone that I talk to about it. We are guaranteed 75, no more, no less. I'm so sick of hearing this 87 crap. (Also I'm a line holder in no danger of getting furloughed, and would technically benefit from higher credit lines. I'm very happily taking my 80 hour line to save us from sending guys to the street)

[QUOTE=TonyWilliams;530722]What's the point? If he "shouldn't have made it", then why did he 1.5 years ago? What if he had never upgraded? Then he'd be "unworthy" for 20 years? What if he tranistioned to another airframe, and failed? He goes back to his previous "unworthy" seat. If you're suggesting that SkW just passes everybody through new hire, you're sadly mistaken.

And based on your suggestion, since I failed upgrade, I should just pack my flying bags and find a new career. Like you said, not everybody is cut out for this job.

Buddy, I know its frustrating, but you knew the risk going into upgrade in an airplane you hadn't flown before. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but you can't blame somebody else when you knew the rules going in. I've got my bid in for EMB CA as a CRJ only FO. It does make me a little nervous, but its a risk I'd like to take for career progression. Good luck

I am sorry SkyWest's up or out policy is ridiculous. Everyone thinks that it's a great airline but i have never felt this small by a person in training dept. and a certain sim instructor who uses more cuss words than aviation words while he is instructing.
I am sorry, if they are professional they should get rid of that person (and I am using this word lightly) period. . This guy has and will impact the livelyhood of families, careers of pilots.
I loved the people in SkyWest when i was there, except a training guy who picked on my religion , name constantly (he suggested that i should get an American name if i am flying in America now. I have been living in this country for 15 years) and this check airman..

What added insult to the injury was a certian BroFO (now CRJ FO) showing his genitelia to his classmates in the class but he is still on the property.. Skywest definately takes care of his own..