Frontier gets another 40Mil from RAH
03-06-2009, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36
SAAB, the thing is that you won't ever get that chance...cause you will never get out of flying a 50 seater. And when was the last time "your" company gave cash to help the codeshare or another codeshare. To do that you must make money. And seems like we have been doing something right to be making that much money to give out, essentially we have saved many many jobs.
Don't forget, after the IPO/spinoff, XJT was operating at a VERY health cost plus arrangement with CAL. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% if I remember correctly.
Not tryin to start a peeing contest, but what does RAH operate at?
03-06-2009, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
So wait, your company is giving out loans but you have how many guys on the street? Say again, over?
Seriously, guys on the street, and pilots flying the 175 for peanuts, but everyone at RAH is ok with BB "investing" the profits on mid to high risk ventures....OoooooK, best of luck guys I hope it all works out.
Let me be the first one here to say to you RAH guys, that I know you guys are going to sell out on the TA. I would be surprised if rates are impacted by more than a 3-5% margin.........PLEASE PROOF ME WRONG, set the standard and give the industry a leading contract for "large" regional aircraft working for a company that is actually generating a healthy profit margin. I mean it, proof me wrong, cause so far, you guys have demonstrated that you will follow the reverend blindly.
03-06-2009, 02:39 PM
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Frontier, Usairways, MidWest, Mokulele...... we have given money to help. Doesnt matter what way you look at it. Yea we still have guys on the street that we are currently pulling off as well. Once we get our new contract what are yall going to say next?
03-06-2009, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36
Frontier, Usairways, MidWest, Mokulele...... we have given money to help. Doesnt matter what way you look at it. Yea we still have guys on the street that we are currently pulling off as well. Once we get our new contract what are yall going to say next?
Oh and that money was not to help anyone, those were investments. The reverend doesn't care about anyone, see "Midwest pilots on the street" as a reference.
03-06-2009, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by planediveguy
So here we are again... RAH bailing out an airline... How come the Frontier pilots are not angry with this? They must know that their management will get with BB and try to whipsaw them in a near future... Oh, wait it is ok because for right now their job is safe...
I will listen to no complaints in the future.
I will listen to no complaints in the future.
03-06-2009, 02:53 PM
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what do you think would have happened to Midwest if we wouldn't have given them any money?? YEA there deffinately investments too, but Midwest and Frontier would not have made it with out us. I mean were you guys going to come through and do anything.. once again we saved jobs too!
03-06-2009, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36
what do you think would have happened to Midwest if we wouldn't have given them any money?? YEA there deffinately investments too, but Midwest and Frontier would not have made it with out us. I mean were you guys going to come through and do anything.. once again we saved jobs too!
03-06-2009, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Oh............its out of the HOLY nature of BB?
He is not going to save the jobs of Frontier guys, hes going to undercut them with RAH pilots.............
When are you guys going to realize there isn't going to be any jobs left worth going to because everyone seems to be happy flying 70+ seat airplanes for garbage pay.
^not sarcasm.
03-06-2009, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36
I mean were you guys going to come through and do anything.. once again we saved jobs too!
I just asked my roommate, a furloughed CHQ pilot, this question, and his response was "Because it's the Teamsters." You guys need to do something about this.
03-06-2009, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bond
So you're saying that RAH was the only possible lender in both scenarios? That's a bit presumptuous of you don't you think? It was a business call, nothing more, and it was never intended to help anyone other than the investors at RAH and the reverend. You're seriously blind if you don't think there were other investors looking at both deals, it's outlined in their quarterly reports and disclosed to the SEC, you do know what those are right?
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