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Flyby1206 07-25-2009 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by AmericanEagleFO (Post 650446)
Where did you hear this? I hope you're right but I haven't heard anything about this. What would happen to trip books? I would see people using charts less.

It was posted on the 'lounge from someone who just got back from recurrent and the fleet manager came in to talk about whats happening in the future. It would be freakin awesome if this happens, so I am keeping my fingers crossed. I guess people would just have to get used to taking the chart out of the binder and clipping it to the yoke. Thats a lot easier than lugging around 50+lbs of charts everywhere.

320ToBearz 07-25-2009 02:06 PM

Has Eagle gotten Cat II certified yet? I imagine the aircraft library concept is a pipe dream of someone in Dallas. I hated lugging FM1 and the Three Jepp Binders around.

Mason32 07-25-2009 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by 320ToBearz (Post 650822)
Has Eagle gotten Cat II certified yet? I imagine the aircraft library concept is a pipe dream of someone in Dallas. I hated lugging FM1 and the Three Jepp Binders around.

Life does get better... exentually you'll only need the red book, and one jepp binder... but, if this new idea they have comes around, I hope other carriers are quick to copy... I hate lugging the books.

IQuitEagle 07-25-2009 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 650778)
It was posted on the 'lounge from someone who just got back from recurrent and the fleet manager came in to talk about whats happening in the future. It would be freakin awesome if this happens, so I am keeping my fingers crossed. I guess people would just have to get used to taking the chart out of the binder and clipping it to the yoke. Thats a lot easier than lugging around 50+lbs of charts everywhere.

My current airline "maintains" the jepps and company manuals as part of the aircraft library as you seem to be talking about. While it is very nice not to have to lug a flight bag around everywhere, there are drawbacks. Such as having to put up with other people taking out pages, and putting them back out of order or under the wrong airport. Or noticing that the charts are possibly a revision or two behind. Or dealing with pages that are falling apart because everyone uses them.

While lugging your own set around is a pain, it is nice to know that you are in charge of maintaining it, and nobody else can mess it up.

320ToBearz 07-25-2009 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 650844)
Life does get better... exentually you'll only need the red book, and one jepp binder... but, if this new idea they have comes around, I hope other carriers are quick to copy... I hate lugging the books.

I would think the Red Book would be part of the a/c library.

Nothing beats delays at ORD and dispatch hounding you with ACARS msgs saying, "Please update your departure time you numbskull."

Mason32 07-26-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by 320ToBearz (Post 650951)
I would think the Red Book would be part of the a/c library.

Nothing beats delays at ORD and dispatch hounding you with ACARS msgs saying, "Please update your departure time you numbskull."


The point was that currently (if it hasn't changed) CA's only have to carry the red book, and one Jepp binder...

FOblondie 07-27-2009 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 651122)
The point was that currently (if it hasn't changed) CA's only have to carry the red book, and one Jepp binder...

Or you could be on a permanent state of reserve and then carry everything! :)

shfo 07-28-2009 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 651122)
The point was that currently (if it hasn't changed) CA's only have to carry the red book, and one Jepp binder...

And FO's only need to carry the blue book and one Jepp binder.

Flyby1206 07-29-2009 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by shfo (Post 652386)
And FO's only need to carry the blue book and one Jepp binder.

Don't forget all the applicable terminal charts(10-9 pages) for the sequence, even the ones not in your designated Jepp section.

buddies8 07-29-2009 06:55 PM

and all the maps. both high and low.


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