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RJ Pilot 07-21-2009 05:50 PM

ATR's outta DFW by the end of the yr. More displacements to come.:(

stillageek 07-21-2009 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 648678)
ATR's outta DFW by the end of the yr. More displacements to come.:(

If the ATR's are "out" then something will be brought "in". Travel is indeed down, but there will still be a need to run those military contracts (SPS,LAW,GRK).

AmericanEagleFO 07-21-2009 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 648678)
ATR's outta DFW by the end of the yr. More displacements to come.:(

Talked to CP, no truth whatsoever. He seems to think another furlough though. He admits it is just an inkling though. He said he has heard nothing to support it.

RJ Pilot 07-22-2009 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 648717)
If the ATR's are "out" then something will be brought "in". Travel is indeed down, but there will still be a need to run those military contracts (SPS,LAW,GRK).

RJ's. Thats the reason for the 15 DCE vacancies. More to follow.

Phrog Phlyer 07-22-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Wheels up (Post 648484)
This goes along with the ruling that the 7300 employed AA pilot floor trigger for the commuter clause of the scope contract is not valid because the arbitrator ruled that furloughed pilots count as "employed" pilots. This ruling means that AA could furlough every single AA pilot yet not trigger the minimum pilot floor for continuing the commuter exception to scope. Also, a stunningly biased finding from a supposed neutral arbitrator.

Stunning, yes, but the consequence of one of the parties ticking off the arbitrator by telling him "We demand an answer NOW!!!"

There is precedence for counting furloughed pilots as employees, but I thought the APA would win the case. Just goes to show that grandstanding can cause more problems than it solves and that patience is, indeed, a virtue.

Phrog Phlyer 07-22-2009 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 648717)
If the ATR's are "out" then something will be brought "in". Travel is indeed down, but there will still be a need to run those military contracts (SPS,LAW,GRK).

Agreed. Since it is unlikely Eagle will make a large purchase of aircraft, even turboprops, until the APA contract is signed, I don't see any major changes at least a year or so. Anything is possible, but the status quo seems to be the best option for now.

captnem 07-22-2009 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by AmericanEagleFO (Post 648777)
Talked to CP, no truth whatsoever. He seems to think another furlough though. He admits it is just an inkling though. He said he has heard nothing to support it.


I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.

meeko031 07-22-2009 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by captnem (Post 649090)
I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.


If Eagle decides to park the ATR, maybe. No need to stress yourself out with the "I heard" crap.

eaglefly 07-22-2009 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by captnem (Post 649090)
I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.

Why run this latest displacement bid then ?

If this were so, you'd think they'd wait to make it part of a larger reduction. As it stands now, they'd be paying people for training who might need re-training on new equipment. Of course, it still would be POSSIBLE as it would take a month or two before any of these would likely go into a long term event, but I'd be surprised ig they were THIS shortsighted.

be76flyer 07-22-2009 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by captnem (Post 649090)
I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 649148)
If Eagle decides to park the ATR, maybe. No need to stress yourself out with the "I heard" crap.


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 649159)
Why run this latest displacement bid then ?

If this were so, you'd think they'd wait to make it part of a larger reduction. As it stands now, they'd be paying people for training who might need re-training on new equipment. Of course, it still would be POSSIBLE as it would take a month or two before any of these would likely go into a long term event, but I'd be surprised ig they were THIS shortsighted.

Captnem is a furloughed guy. My guess is he heard the rumor that was started on EL.


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