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Old 05-22-2009 | 04:51 PM
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I think it would be wise to get rid of the Colgan brand...I was on elevator at the hotel today, and one of the riders noticed my badge. She remarked that I worked the airline that had the crash, and would never fly on "my" airline. I was obviously very embarassed, and to be honest a little hurt by this encounter. However, it illustrated to me loud and clear that the Colgan brand needs to go. In particular the hedious ( in my opinion ) so-called, "Captain America" paintjob. It isn't so much that I dislike the livery, but almost every SAAB painted in this livery looks terrible due to the age and upkeep on these airplanes. Add some "blue juice" streaked down the side, and I want to put a bag over my head before I walk in the terminal.

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Old 05-22-2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BE19Pilot
I think it would be wise to get rid of the Colgan brand...I was on elevator at the hotel today, and one of the riders noticed my badge. She remarked that I worked the airline that had the crash, and would never fly on "my" airline. I was obviously very embarassed, and to be honest a little hurt by this encounter. However, it illustrated to me loud and clear that the Colgan brand needs to go. In particular the hedious ( in my opinion ) so-called, "Captain America" paintjob. It isn't so much that I dislike the livery, but almost every SAAB painted in this livery looks terrible due to the age and upkeep on these airplanes. Add some "blue juice" streaked down the side, and I want to put a bag over my head before I walk in the terminal.

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I agree, I would love to see a name change but the company can not do it too quickly because the new name would make news as well.

As far as the Captain America paint jobs they need to get rid of those if for nothing else than just the fact "Colgan Air" is posted across the sides of them. Since there are few Colgans at Colgan and only 1 with any pull I do not see the reason to keep the name.
Old 05-22-2009 | 05:25 PM
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Guys, I think you're overreacting a little bit. Countless airlines have had terrible accidents in the past and haven't changed names or gone out of business. And lets not forget you're owned by Pinnacle, home of the most embarressing accident in the history of this biz flight 3701. (that's my opinion anyway)

Keep in mind it's not just Colgan that is being scrutinized by the public. All regionals are getting these "regionals are unsafe" comments. There's not a trip that goes by that I don't hear something to that affect.

And how long do you think it will be before people will forget about this altogether? Ask some random people if they remember when 737's were falling out of the sky due to the rudder problem. They'll look at you cross-eyed and confused. Ask them about the MD-80's horizontal stab that malfunctioned and sent an Alaskan Airlines plane nose first into the ground. Ask them about Tenerife where a company check airman captain with thousands of hours of experience took off without a clearance and slammed into a Pam Am 747 creating, to date, the worst accident in our industry's history.

This too shall pass.... learn from it and fly safe

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Old 05-22-2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Noseeums
Guys, I think you're overreacting a little bit. Countless airlines have had terrible accidents in the past and haven't changed names or gone out of business. And lets not forget you're owned by Pinnacle, home of the most embarressing accident in the history of this biz flight 3701. (that's my opinion anyway)

Keep in mind it's not just Colgan that is being scrutinized by the public. All regionals are getting these "regionals are unsafe" comments. There's not a trip that goes by that I don't hear something to that affect.

And how long do you think it will be before people will forget about this altogether? Ask some random people if they remember when 737's were falling out of the sky due to the rudder problem. They'll look at you cross-eyed and confused. Ask them about the MD-80's horizontal stab that malfunctioned and sent an Alaskan Airlines plane nose first into the ground. Ask them about Tenerife where a company check airman captain with thousands of hours of experience took off without a clearance and slammed into a Pam Am 747 creating, to date, the worst accident in our industry's history.

This too shall pass.... learn from it and fly safe
I believe it is Alaska Airlines....yeah, last time I checked it was Alaska cause I don't see an "Alaskan Airlines" written on the side of the plane.
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So is it Deltan Airlines now or is it still Delta?
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Originally Posted by dashtrash300
I believe it is Alaska Airlines....yeah, last time I checked it was Alaska cause I don't see an "Alaskan Airlines" written on the side of the plane.
yeah whatever
Old 05-22-2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dashtrash300
I believe it is Alaska Airlines....yeah, last time I checked it was Alaska cause I don't see an "Alaskan Airlines" written on the side of the plane.
The guy makes a good point and you jump on one error and then follow it up with another post? What's your issue?
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Originally Posted by greaper007
However, is a measly 5,000-10,000 more a year that you guys make really that much of a difference? .
5-10K is a TON of money
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Originally Posted by greaper007
Newark, as a Colgan employee I dislike the company as much as you do. However, is a measly 5,000-10,000 more a year that you guys make really that much of a difference? I'm living in Hartford which is considerably cheaper than NY or DC. My family still needs about 80,000 a year just to break even with our loans and the cost of living.

All regional airlines are crap. Lets focus our power on the man, not each other. That goes for the mainline guys also. Personally, I'm seriously about 5 seconds away from pulling a "John Galt" on this whole industry. It's really not worth it.
In a word? ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY!!! What would you do with an extra $1000 a month? Just looking at the pay scales here, and without knowing much about the highly desirable workrules at Colgan, I make just about double what a Colgan FO with the same seniority makes. But whats a few bones between friends
Old 05-23-2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BE19Pilot
I think it would be wise to get rid of the Colgan brand...I was on elevator at the hotel today, and one of the riders noticed my badge. She remarked that I worked the airline that had the crash, and would never fly on "my" airline. I was obviously very embarassed, and to be honest a little hurt by this encounter. However, it illustrated to me loud and clear that the Colgan brand needs to go. In particular the hedious ( in my opinion ) so-called, "Captain America" paintjob. It isn't so much that I dislike the livery, but almost every SAAB painted in this livery looks terrible due to the age and upkeep on these airplanes. Add some "blue juice" streaked down the side, and I want to put a bag over my head before I walk in the terminal.

Regards,

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Yes the "Captain America" paint jobs have always been nothing to be proud of. However, don't ever worry about what people think or say. A simple "whatever and have a nice day", always works for me.
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