Colgan
05-26-2009 | 06:54 PM
#31
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In a word? ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY!!! What would you do with an extra $1000 a month? Just looking at the pay scales here, and without knowing much about the highly desirable workrules at Colgan, I make just about double what a Colgan FO with the same seniority makes. But whats a few bones between friends
05-26-2009 | 07:20 PM
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Colgan has been taking the rap here, but it's really not the money, nor even the training. It's who's in the seat at any given time, and especially when things start to unravel. God knows that Fedex pilots are paid a very fair wage, but if they had carried pax the last several years, these highly trained (and paid) aviators would probably have killed a couple thousand people simply by the plethora of accidents on both their main and feeder lines. But for the grace...
05-26-2009 | 07:20 PM
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I think it would be wise to get rid of the Colgan brand...I was on elevator at the hotel today, and one of the riders noticed my badge. She remarked that I worked the airline that had the crash, and would never fly on "my" airline. I was obviously very embarassed, and to be honest a little hurt by this encounter. However, it illustrated to me loud and clear that the Colgan brand needs to go. In particular the hedious ( in my opinion ) so-called, "Captain America" paintjob. It isn't so much that I dislike the livery, but almost every SAAB painted in this livery looks terrible due to the age and upkeep on these airplanes. Add some "blue juice" streaked down the side, and I want to put a bag over my head before I walk in the terminal.
Regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
Regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
05-26-2009 | 07:23 PM
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A lot of the guys I have been flying with are most certain that Colgan will not make it as an airline much past the end of the year. Regardless of if this is true or not, I am very sorry for all those employed and my thoughts are with you and your families.
My question is, why would they say this? They have referenced TWA and the flight 800 crash saying that ended TWA. If Colgan say did go out of business, what do you all think would happen to the industry as a whole? Who would get their flying, airplanes, and pilots?
I am not trying to start a Colgan bashing thread. I just want a few other opinions then the older type captains that I have been flying with.
Thanks!
My question is, why would they say this? They have referenced TWA and the flight 800 crash saying that ended TWA. If Colgan say did go out of business, what do you all think would happen to the industry as a whole? Who would get their flying, airplanes, and pilots?
I am not trying to start a Colgan bashing thread. I just want a few other opinions then the older type captains that I have been flying with.
Thanks!
05-27-2009 | 01:11 PM
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Second, yes, I do work for Piedmont but I seriously doubt Piedmont will be getting much of their flying seeing as we are losing 7 more airplanes between September and December.
05-27-2009 | 03:14 PM
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Thats the worst argument I've ever heard. A regional is a regional. I used to work for skywest and flew with plenty of fo's that left expressjet/coex for skywest. Does that make skywest better? Hell no. Get off the high horse, you fly for a regional that probably hired you when you had 500 hours or less. The money is crap for a reason. Its not a career its a stepping stone. Now back to the original thread.
05-27-2009 | 06:28 PM
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So $27,000 1st year and $40,000 2nd year, while on reserve, is just as bad as someone making $20,000 1st year and maybe $30,000 2nd year?
As for having 500 hours and getting hired, you are incorrect again. I had over 800 and bypassed lower paid regionals that would've taken me at 500 hours. Eagle and ExpressJet were the only ones I applied to and offered a position. Who's the one trying to hold the bar up here?
Get off your high horse and stop distracting from the truth. Go ahead and hide behind your new username.
As for having 500 hours and getting hired, you are incorrect again. I had over 800 and bypassed lower paid regionals that would've taken me at 500 hours. Eagle and ExpressJet were the only ones I applied to and offered a position. Who's the one trying to hold the bar up here?
Get off your high horse and stop distracting from the truth. Go ahead and hide behind your new username.
I would never argue that ExpressJet is a bad operation because they are not. They offer a quality product to CAL. However, your argument doesn't hold water. I have listened to you bash Colgan for so long and it's really really getting old. Just pick yourself up tpersuit....do your job like a professional, forget about Colgan who obviously has not stolen your job.
If anything, you flying from EWR-OMA, you have stolen my job. How do you feel?
*Cue the "It's different" comeback. (It's always different with XJT)
05-27-2009 | 06:44 PM
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Wow...800 Hours ...amazing...you high timer!!! I went from Colgan to CAL mainline in under 2 years..hired with CJC at 2300TT. I didn't have an in at CAL and they liked that I had flown a turboprop (SAAB).
I would never argue that ExpressJet is a bad operation because they are not. They offer a quality product to CAL. However, your argument doesn't hold water. I have listened to you bash Colgan for so long and it's really really getting old. Just pick yourself up tpersuit....do your job like a professional, forget about Colgan who obviously has not stolen your job.
If anything, you flying from EWR-OMA, you have stolen my job. How do you feel?
*Cue the "It's different" comeback. (It's always different with XJT)
I would never argue that ExpressJet is a bad operation because they are not. They offer a quality product to CAL. However, your argument doesn't hold water. I have listened to you bash Colgan for so long and it's really really getting old. Just pick yourself up tpersuit....do your job like a professional, forget about Colgan who obviously has not stolen your job.
If anything, you flying from EWR-OMA, you have stolen my job. How do you feel?
*Cue the "It's different" comeback. (It's always different with XJT)
05-27-2009 | 07:11 PM
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Ok again tpersuit lets talk about holding out for a respected regional. Back in my time, regionals didn't make up what it does now. If we really want to talk how it should be then there should be a lot more boeing and airbus flying in the sky but no YOU held out for a more respected regional and but another erj in the sky. If you think you are helping the industry out I think you need to reconsider.
05-27-2009 | 07:13 PM
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Bad spelling aside, some might make a case that a repo flight that killed only the arguably irresponsible pilots vs. other flights I'm not going to name that killed innocent passengers as well is slightly less embarrassing. Not trying to burn or defend anyone, but I'm just saying...
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