Originally Posted by dashtrash300

I couldn't agree with you more sir!!! Regionals should be a stepping stone period. Lifers give the industry a bad name. I can't tell you how many times these guys have tried to defend their whole QOL bull crap. I am sorry, but $80 an hour to fly a Dash 8 or an RJ is not QOL especially when you can be making that as a 3rd year FO at most majors. "Well I could have gone but I didn't want to move my family." BULL CRAP!!!!! You couldn't make it at a major. You couldn't deal with being the low man at the company again. You just didn't want to deal with being an FO again and not being "in charge." You would rather have an easy to fly Dash 8 or RJ for your career and make $80-$90 an hour then to do something real with your lives. You lifers don't even try to defend it. You are bringing the industry down and you need to go find a real job.

God that felt good!!!

Originally Posted by tpersuit

Somebody is upset they haven't upgraded yet. You just proved the point that regionals should NOT be a stepping stone. It should be a career choice.

You know, you do sound like someone in management trying to convince everyone it is OK to work at the regionals for peanuts, because pilots will only spend a couple of years there.

Originally Posted by DMEarc

And you sound like a person who is completely fine with undercutting my ALPA union contract and flying around a 50 seat jet for FAR LESS than my pilot group would.

Colgan is undercutting you. You are undercutting me. Thank you for putting me on the street, tpersuit.

Originally Posted by dashtrash300

I couldn't agree with you more sir!!! Regionals should be a stepping stone period. Lifers give the industry a bad name. I can't tell you how many times these guys have tried to defend their whole QOL bull crap. I am sorry, but $80 an hour to fly a Dash 8 or an RJ is not QOL especially when you can be making that as a 3rd year FO at most majors. "Well I could have gone but I didn't want to move my family." BULL CRAP!!!!! You couldn't make it at a major. You couldn't deal with being the low man at the company again. You just didn't want to deal with being an FO again and not being "in charge." You would rather have an easy to fly Dash 8 or RJ for your career and make $80-$90 an hour then to do something real with your lives. You lifers don't even try to defend it. You are bringing the industry down and you need to go find a real job.

God that felt good!!!

Originally Posted by IBPilot

let's see...10 year plus regional CA, 18 days off, PIC, live where you want to, bid what you want, make 100k........

10 year CA goes to mainline.....12 days off, reserve god knows how long, bottom of the barrel schedules for who knows how long, being an FO for 10+ more years all for just 25-30K more per year.......plus furloughs.

the line is not as clear as you may think it is. Not everyone needs 175k to be happy in life, there are other things...and not everyone needs to fly a 74 to feed their ego.

when you get more experience you might see it this way....

Originally Posted by dashtrash300

I pray I never do. Enjoy the respect you think you are getting from your 23 year old FO and 50 year old FA. But hey, you might just be a lucky guy and get 2 FAs!!!!!

Originally Posted by IBPilot

actually I get quite a bit of respect. More than you'll ever get with that attitude.
23 year old FO? yeah you know it all already don't you? so much wiser than the CA....

In general, most 30 year old plus CA's get more respect than you 23 year old FO"s anyways...enjoy that cool factor/respect you think you are getting...you don't hear any jokes about us older CA's walking thru the airport with our ipods, frosted hair and backpacks....SJS at it's finest

Originally Posted by dashtrash300

My plan WAS to get hired after college with a regional (at 21), spend 2 years in the right seat then upgrade when I turned 23. Spend about a year and a half as a captain and then move over to a certain major to fly with my Dad for like 5 years before he retires and my cousin for like 15 years before he retires.

So far, I got hired after college at 21 with a regional. Sadly, it was with a retirement regional so 55 of our current captains were hired before I was born and 93 of our captains were hired before 1990 with the most junior captain being on for 4 years! Not to mention the top 3-4 captains were hired before 1980. So because of these guys that wouldn't move on to bigger and better things, I am now worrying about my job in the right seat praying that I don't get furloughed. Since when did a regional airline become a stopping point in aviation?

The moral of the story is that having a plan is great! It helps to set in motion what you need to do to get things done. Just make sure that you are flexible and know that not everything works out the way we want it.

Originally Posted by dashtrash300

Yeah, I wasn't sure. I have only been here at Piedmont for just under 3 years so I wasn't around when any "contract" was signed for jet flying. I am just going by what every angry lifer captain here at Piedmont has told me. Which isn't saying to much about my intelligence.

Originally Posted by dashtrash300

First off buddy, I never said I was 23. And who cares if I was. I have met 23 year FO's and CA's that could fly circles around 50 year old CA's. Age has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by dashtrash300

I couldn't agree with you more sir!!! Regionals should be a stepping stone period. Lifers give the industry a bad name. I can't tell you how many times these guys have tried to defend their whole QOL bull crap. I am sorry, but $80 an hour to fly a Dash 8 or an RJ is not QOL especially when you can be making that as a 3rd year FO at most majors. "Well I could have gone but I didn't want to move my family." BULL CRAP!!!!! You couldn't make it at a major. You couldn't deal with being the low man at the company again. You just didn't want to deal with being an FO again and not being "in charge." You would rather have an easy to fly Dash 8 or RJ for your career and make $80-$90 an hour then to do something real with your lives. You lifers don't even try to defend it. You are bringing the industry down and you need to go find a real job.

God that felt good!!!