Colgan
#41
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You guys make me laugh. Well I guess I should have just gone to the lowest paying jobs out there when I got my 200 hours. You do know that regionals were hiring pilots with as little as 200 hours don't you?
And yes, waiting to get on with a more reputable regional does help make small difference. By your reasoning, I should have gone to the first and lowest paying job I could have.
800 hours is a huge difference than 500 hours. Some people even held out to a 1,000 hours, which is even more because they wanted to go to Skywest.
As for bashing on Colgan, save the grief. I am not on here to trash the Colgan group. But, if for one second you want to get on my case for pointing out a Colgan FO makes about 70-80% of the pay an ExpressJet FO makes for doing the same flying, but with 20 more seats, by all means keep it up.
A Colgan FO, which flies 70 seats, makes 70-80% of an ExpressJet FO who flies 50 seats.
DMEarc, I'm really excited for you that you got your mainline gid in under 2 years. I'm so glad you didn't care about the regional you went to so you could build "your time". I'll tell you one thing, I could make a career at ExpressJet, would you be willing to make a career at Colgan?
And yes, waiting to get on with a more reputable regional does help make small difference. By your reasoning, I should have gone to the first and lowest paying job I could have.
800 hours is a huge difference than 500 hours. Some people even held out to a 1,000 hours, which is even more because they wanted to go to Skywest.
As for bashing on Colgan, save the grief. I am not on here to trash the Colgan group. But, if for one second you want to get on my case for pointing out a Colgan FO makes about 70-80% of the pay an ExpressJet FO makes for doing the same flying, but with 20 more seats, by all means keep it up.
A Colgan FO, which flies 70 seats, makes 70-80% of an ExpressJet FO who flies 50 seats.
DMEarc, I'm really excited for you that you got your mainline gid in under 2 years. I'm so glad you didn't care about the regional you went to so you could build "your time". I'll tell you one thing, I could make a career at ExpressJet, would you be willing to make a career at Colgan?
Let's look at another one of your bogus arguments, becaue that's what they all are...bogus.
Colgan $21/hr first year....ExpressJet $23/hr first year...70-80% less you say..
By your logic that means a Colgan FO only makes $5.75/hr...I think that is incorrect.
Now let's look at it using something we call....the correct way.
ExpressJet FO's make 10.5% more than Colgan's FOs. I am not defending Colgan by any means. I am telling you thay you're shyt does in fact stink and ExpressJet is a still an mainline undercutter. Just like Colgan, just like Republic, just like Eagle, just like Air Wisconsin. However we DO NOT make it better by bashing Colgan and wishing they'd go out of business. That may happen, but then ExpressJet would pick up the flying...AKA mainline undercutting and I will still be furloughed. You need to go to your MEC and volunteer, not opinions, but work. Work on making things better around the industry- not only at XJT.
Colgan Pilots were BRILLIANT in voting in ALPA, sounds like you need a little kick to realize what we're all in this for.
#42
Holding out for a regional isn't going anywhere. Regionals should be a stepping stone period! 10 captain on an rj getting paid $90k doesn't help this industry. In fact it hurts this industry cause you undercut the majors so you can fly those routes(and paint the majors colors on the side) If you wanted to do it right you should volunteer in your union and try to make the industry better. Cause you blaming the Colgan pilots doesn't make you innocent. You are part of the problem also.
#44
Your right regionals should never be a stepping stone. Stepping stones should be instructing, corporate, etc... where everybody else that has been in this industry for many years did. This arguement with which regional is better is crap. regionals shouldn't even be in the sky but you and your ego problem is bringing this industry down even worse. I wish you worked for a major right now cause you wouldn't last. No respect for the industry!
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Wow, I'm not even going to bother with you guys.
I'm surprised every day, how it's actually a bad thing to try and hold out for something better and you get trashed for doing so.
Amazing.
I'm surprised every day, how it's actually a bad thing to try and hold out for something better and you get trashed for doing so.
Amazing.
#47
Bad spelling aside, some might make a case that a repo flight that killed only the arguably irresponsible pilots vs. other flights I'm not going to name that killed innocent passengers as well is slightly less embarrassing. Not trying to burn or defend anyone, but I'm just saying...
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Holding out for a regional isn't going anywhere. Regionals should be a stepping stone period! 10 captain on an rj getting paid $90k doesn't help this industry. In fact it hurts this industry cause you undercut the majors so you can fly those routes(and paint the majors colors on the side) If you wanted to do it right you should volunteer in your union and try to make the industry better. Cause you blaming the Colgan pilots doesn't make you innocent. You are part of the problem also.
God that felt good!!!
#49
Not true. Management hates anyone above year 4 payscale. They want you to upgrade in 2 years, get 1000 pic and get the heck out so they can keep everyone under 4 year payscale.
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