Why would ALPA be doing anything about this? They're too busy indoctrinating new due payers. Did you see the latest ALPA mag? What a joke. I don't even remember seeing anything about a regional airline. If they don't do anything about this then it will be failed union funded by the good old boys and with their interests.

 

Give it a rest already we get the point. You're on the street. So are others. Maybe you should use all that time and energy here to find a job.

 

100 seats man this sucks

Last year I sat on a 100 seat DC 9 with only 2 FA. Makes me sick to know that the RAH pilots will not get paid anywhere the pay of Delta DC 9 CA pay.

For those that say that 100 pay has yet to be determine you are right but anything less than DC 9 pay will be a disgrace.

On a side note does anyone know if the current MKE based pilots will just fly this or fly both the 170/190

 

Here's what RAH pilots *COULD* do:

Create a carveout/virtual seniority list valid only for MIDWEST CONNECT flying and staff it exclusively with furloughed MEH pilots. However, this will never happen - it'd be a selfless action by RAH pilots to actually do the right thing in the face of an ugly situation.

In the meanwhile, keep telling yourselves that you really "don't like it at all..."

 

...So after 25 pages of insulting the intelligence, integrity, and parentage of the RAH pilot group, now we're talking about how horrible it is to not show support to our fellow aviators?

 

Exactly. How senior do you think this mainline flying will go? Let me think..... VERY senior. The RAH pilots and the union will most likely not force a separate list or flying because it would mean that not everybody would be able to fly the big mainline jet. After all that's how the three certificates with a single list were founded anyways along with their "99" seat pay, SJS. I guess it's not very surprising that this happened.

 

Why would any airline pilot, especially an RAH pilot whose group made large sacrifices in compensation & work rules to obtain iron-clad scope for their seniority list back in 2003, completely ignore that struggle and allow their seniority to be usurped by giving away those seats in the name of "the right thing to do"?

Would ANY other airline pilot group do that voluntarily?!? OF COURSE NOT!

Midwest pilots are in a crappy situation no doubt, and it'd be great for RJET to offer preferential hiring to them once their current furloughed pilots are recalled, but let's not kid ourselves - Republic didn't cause Midwest's financial problems and RAH pilots don't "owe" Midwest pilots those seats.

A narrowbody has finally arrived at the regionals, and while that's not good for the profession as a whole or the MEH group specifically the hypocritical disgust by many on here toward RAH pilots who aren't doing anything other than their jobs is just ridiculous. No regional airline pilot here would refuse to fly those airplanes had their airline gotten them. No regional pilot here would give away their seniority to another pilot out of charity.

Republic isn't an alter-ego formed to take flying away from Midwest, ala TSA & GoJet. Republic pilots didn't take paycuts or concessions in order to fly bigger, shinier airplanes...unlike so many other regional airlines out there. In fact, they're in contract negotiations and don't have a payrate for 100 seats (as these airplanes have been proposed to have).

Too bad Bedford just didn't buy MEH so this thing could go to a seniority integration/arbitration and happen (by comparison) cleanly...

 

The flying most likely won't go senior at all. Most very senior people live in base and have no ambition to leave. It will go to whoever is already there. The flying will not be 190 specific. The RAH pilots and the union will no force a separate list because it's against the contract AND after all the fighting was done to make the current list a one single list with three certs there's no way they're going to give that back. It'd be a horrible idea. No reason behind it. If this is any additional flying then obviously people on furlough would be recalled regardless. It wouldn't make any sense to create a separate list. It's not about being selfish. This situation is bad but we have due paying memebers here at RAH that have every legal right to come back first.

 

Finally, a voice of reason.

 

That will never, ever happen. RAH will never have more than one seniority list as long as the pilot group has a say...period. As BoilerUP said, I can't think of a single pilot group that would open itself up to the kind of Alter-ego plans a separate seniority list would create. That wouldn't be a "selfless action" by the RAH pilot group...it would be friggin' suicide.