Wasn't there a clause in the contract that said something to the effect of "maintaining status quo" for benefits that were not specifically defined in the contract. A few years back they tried to start charging us for something and the Union was able to shoot it down based on that clause. Can anyone refresh my memory.
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Unfortunately, our travel benefits are negotiated outside of our CBA and the union can do little to bargain with the company over them. If the company decides to alter our agreement (as they in effect have by implementing the Delta benefits over established NW ones) there is little recourse. With that said, it would be interesting to see if the Union tells management that there will be a "no" vote on a new TA if the benefits do not change for the better.

 

I finally believe we might be entering end game negotiations. Seeing management pull a stunt like this shows they might still have a couple cards to play but i firmly believe that this is going to go right down to either a last minute deal or a strike. Now the question is, will we ever get the right to do that by the NMB?

 

ACL65 - the new PCL pass policy they're talking about is totally different than what other DCI carriers get. For Mesaba/Compass our benefits are overall actually getting better. Comair guys are complaining about what they've got because they lose boarding priority... but the people truly getting hosed are the PCL folks. So... not sure if you're on the mark with your theory.

 

Hopefully Uncle Phil is doing something about this. This whole pass thing will cause major issues.

Hopefully a lot of the FA's will quit. However, the nickel will have hard time recruiting any new 'talent'.I can't figure out who is in charge of hiring all these stunners we have...

 

WHOAAAA! You guys got one of the biggest shafts I've ever seen in this business. Comair thought they had it bad, DAYYYAMMM!

 

This issue is about to become explosive on many levels...

 

And it will create an immediate violation of contract section 26.d which states that parents, spouses, and eligible dependents fly free on all company-operated flights...they will have to figure out a way to either a) let us list our parents on 9E-operated flights only (sounds like a nightmare), or b) reimburse us for ZED fares (a major pain in the arse).

In addition, let us not forget ZED fares will all be at the HIGH level...they are currently at the MEDIUM level for parents on Delta....so it will be MORE expensive for our parents to fly on Delta than it was pre-merger...no joke...from the pass bureau directly...

Thanks for playing Pinnacle, you probably just lost my vote for any TA you put in front of me unless it is absolutely industry LEADING...I would rather just wait for the NMB to release us at this point and get them by the family jewels so we can push for no less than any other non-wholly owned DCI feeder...

Pinnacle is really good at irritating us about stuff that doesn't matter, but I think they might have miscalculated this one...if everything the pass travel folks have said in both written and phone communications turns out to be true, it will push many pilots who walked the line OVER the line and into the mindset of "burn this place down." I am one of those people...I did my job, I worked hard, I didn't call in sick unless I really was, I got there early, I kept up on my revisions, I tried to make it a better place...but this pass travel thing is like spilling a beer on a guy's girlfriend and refusing to apologize...

taking travel away from pilots and their families is a slap in the face...we're in the transportation business for crying out loud...

If any Pinnacle shareholders are reading this, your ignorant managment might have just axed any chance of getting an industry average TA that would've helped the company's stock value and secured flying for the future...instead, your management (if all of this pans out) might have just crossed the line and led us down a path to release and a strike...because many of us are now going to make them sell the house and give us all the money, or burn the house down...way to go management...hope you saved a nickel...

 

Pinnacle management doesn't care what pilots think or how angry they are. It's deliberate and calculated. All part of a demoralization campaign that conditions the employees that they're nothing better than day-labor and will take anything management forces down their throats.

All management cares about is you show up for work. And we all know that you will. So to all you really angry pilots . . . are you going to do something about it, or just do the usual and sulk away throw a tantrum in private (for your $30k a year "professional" compensation)?

 

I bet Uncle Phil in his Cronies get buddy passes/family/positive spaces...