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Originally Posted by vagabond
(Post 644798)
Mod note:
Looks like another United Nations post - a little flamebait, a little thread drift, a little of everything. Try to stay on track, eh? Or I'm going to have to agree with Gunga Galunga (whatever kind of name is that?? ;)) Don't make me give out infractions; I really don't like to do that. YouTube - bill murray caddy shack light reference to an out-of-date movie with a cult following. |
Originally Posted by gtechpilot
(Post 644718)
You are correct sir! The problem is that the company has created a method to get around the contract in this area but using 'red arrows' and not declaring them restricted. Not saying they can or will, but if the company wants to furlough again, they will find a way to do it.
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Originally Posted by todd1200
(Post 644843)
Haha, yeah, they'll just give us mandatory extended time off w/o pay and call it an "orange line month" or something. Hey, as long as it's not called "furlough" it'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by berge7f9
(Post 644760)
Everybody has to have a backup plan, side job, or any other creative way to make a living outside of aviation.
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everyone thinks they have a back up plan until they get furloughed into this economy and realize how impossible it is to get any decent job, let alone a flying one.
is there any truth to the rumor that senior ASA pilots were b*tching again before this round of furloughs about how they won't be making any money come the fall with reduced line values? |
Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
(Post 644993)
everyone thinks they have a back up plan until they get furloughed into this economy and realize how impossible it is to get any decent job, let alone a flying one.
is there any truth to the rumor that senior ASA pilots were b*tching again before this round of furloughs about how they won't be making any money come the fall with reduced line values? |
Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
(Post 644993)
everyone thinks they have a back up plan until they get furloughed into this economy and realize how impossible it is to get any decent job, let alone a flying one.
is there any truth to the rumor that senior ASA pilots were b*tching again before this round of furloughs about how they won't be making any money come the fall with reduced line values? |
You have to look at it from their perspective. Albeit this is not the right time, nor the right candor, to bring up something like this; All they know is their lifestyle and if ASA is going to Furlough, it should ' bring staffing levels to where they are a prosperous and competitive ' as the company put it, and not so that we're STILL struggling when those who are furloughed hit the street. My heart goes out to all who are furloughed, I feel for you, and hope it turns around soon.
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
(Post 644746)
The gains were like intangibles that didn't benefit anyone but SKW pilots (We spell TEAM....."i"-Tea"m-e"). Remember that we haven’t furloughed yet and the company seems to be more willing to take risks with our pilot group in an effort to keep moral high and remain non-union/Pro-Jerry. Once again, a double standard.
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Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht
(Post 645037)
You have to look at it from their perspective. Albeit this is not the right time, nor the right candor, to bring up something like this; All they know is their lifestyle and if ASA is going to Furlough, it should ' bring staffing levels to where they are a prosperous and competitive ' as the company put it, and not so that we're STILL struggling when those who are furloughed hit the street. My heart goes out to all who are furloughed, I feel for you, and hope it turns around soon.
This is a fundamental problem with pilot groups, unions and our entire profession to an extent. It's "hooray for me and to hell with you, you probably didn't deserve the job anyway." I would bet that if this is true, these people have not been furloughed and have not had to work some dog $*** job just to scrape by til recall. You want to talk management not being as employee friendly as they'd like you to think? Fine. Skywest conspiracy? I'm game to discuss. But when you have the possibility of fellow pilots pushing for furloughs for personal gains its purely disgusting |
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