About 33%-35% of SKW flying is DAL with a portion of that being Pro-Rate. We've seen a drop in ATL flying of 30% and a drop in SLC flying of about 20%.

That's pretty much on par with ASA but because of UAL we've been able to squeeze by.

I'm pro-ALPA and I still disagree with this statement.

Just wait until the 20 airframes depart ASA. That will trigger 100 more furloughs and 100 more downgrades. If the industry and economy are so bad, why would anyone think ASA would be keeping those 20 planes?

So you're banking on ASA breaking the contract?

Considering the number of red-arrow days (25+ per month when only 4 are allowed), no one should be surprised if ASA tries.

Heyas,

PMFJI, but he long term plan for DAL is to shrink down and attrit the 50 seaters down to a 50-70 number to serve nitch markets, very similar to what the remnants of PDT/ALG is doing for LCC. Larger aircraft are near the cap. I've heard that DAL management say that overall RJ flying(of all sizes) is still too big by about a 3rd, and doesn't fit with "the brand" (whatever that means).

While I feel bad for the furloughees, the days of fungal like growth at the scooters are over...

Nu

Good, I'd rather see the regionals shrink and see mainline recapture the flying. I'd rather sit out on the street for an extra 3 years flight instructing and working another job then get back sooner and be stuck at a regional for the rest of my life.

When does ASA's contract expire with DAL? Isn't it 2014 or something like that? Whenever that contract expires is when things will get really messy. I wouldn't be surprised if all the -200s disappear and we only fly the -700s and -900s for Delta. We could lose all of the 70+ seater RJs too or see it transferred to Skywest, who knows.

Anyone want to start some kind of pool for recall? I'd say recall in time for the 2012 summer travel season.

Does anyone think ASA will furlough into the contract when they are forced to park the 20-200's in the spring? I was talking with the ALPA guys in the lounge yesterday at the town hall meeting and they said the company would have to declare bankruptcy or lose their operating certificate, be grounded by the government for the company to be able to furlough into the protected pilots...The company has been pretty good about honoring the contract, minus crew scheduling...

I wouldn't count on anything, a clever enough lawyer will figure out a way around that clause to benefit the company. Hopefully it doesn't get to the point they need to furlough more, but who knows.

I'm not 100% sure but I think the language is the contract is grey there. There is a difference between a restricted day and a red arrow day.

You are correct sir! The problem is that the company has created a method to get around the contract in this area but using 'red arrows' and not declaring them restricted. Not saying they can or will, but if the company wants to furlough again, they will find a way to do it.