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Old 07-20-2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
STL to IAD...got in IAD at 1:05 a.m. local time. I hadn't eaten since about noon and was dizzy I was so hungry. Tired and hungry, I get off the plane to walk around it and make sure I didn't break anything, I turn on my cell to find 7 voicemails. I think the worst has happened at home or somthing because I figured scheduling would be smart enough to know I was flying. Nope, I had 3 normal voicemails and 4 very angry voicemails from scheduling informing of my duty to be reachable by phone and time requirements to call them back. I finally called them back. Left IAD for DTW at 1:50am and got a stern lecture from scheduling. I let them lecture me for about 5 minutes before I gave the smarta** reply..."Sorry dude, I was flyin"

Those clowns have done that to me too. Got wrote up about that too...not contactable on reserve. 10 voicemails in 2 hours, only problem was that I was in the air, working a den flight. Needless to say I never heard a peep out of mgt about the write up. Our sched has to be the worse...Morons.
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Old 07-20-2009 | 07:40 PM
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A wonderful Comair scheduling story for all to enjoy.... Allow me to set the scene:

So there I was, two weeks off of IOE in mid December, sitting in the Cleveland airport. This particular day, there was about 1" of snow on the ground and it was snowing moderately. I was on day 2 of a 3 day trip and this particular assignment had me deadheading back to CVG (on Chautauqua) at about 3pm for an hour break and then off to DSM for the overnight.

As the CA/FA and I show up at the gate, we notice there is no A/C at the gate. Given the weather we weren't surprised. We were informed that there was about an hour and a half delay. Now, just off of IOE, I had not had an opportunity to "learn" that scheduling does not EVER know what is going on. I assumed they had the ability to see that I was delayed and all was cool. (This would bite me in the arse... more on that in a bit).

The CHQ -135 shows up and we all board. As I sat in my seat, I pulled out my iPhone and turn on airplane mode. When doing this, I also check to see if I missed any calls or messages; there were none. As I settle into my seat and take a quick nap, we taxi out, deice and takeoff. About 60 minutes later, we were taxiing into concourse C in CVG.

After everyone deplanes, we slide out and pick up our bags. I turn on my cell phone to find 4 voicemails from scheduling. I didnt bother to listen to them and instead got on the computer right inside the terminal to see what my schedule had on it and how it had changed. When I pulled it up, I had an "SD" on my line. For those of you that don't know what an SD is, it is a Scheduling Discrepancy. Basically scheduling's way of flagging your schedule and forcing a telephone 'carpet dance' with a CP.

I called scheduling and told them that I just landed on my DH in CVG. They said I had been in for an hour and a half and my schedule had changed, I was due to fly a flight to TYS that was supposed to leave 45 minutes ago. Flight is already boarded and they were waiting on me. I said that we were delayed in CLE and I thought they knew about the delay.... it isn't my job to babysit you guys!! After going back and forth, they refused to remove the SD thinking I had purposefully avoided them and I had to call a CP to get it removed. I told the story to the CP, he laughed and explained to me that scheduling doesn't have the ability to see delays on offline carriers to track DH's. With the SD removed, I started to head over to the TYS aircraft so we could blast off.... At this point, I just wanted to get to the hotel. As I start up the stairs of the A/C, the pax all clap... trying to be professional and not show that I had about had it, I smiled, waved and quickly got to work. As I get my stuff settled in, the captain gets a call on his cell phone from scheduling re-assigning him to another flight.... He was livid, and at this point, I was too. Then scheduling asked to talk to me... so the CA handed me his phone, and I mustered out a rude "What!?". They said that the flight was cancelled and I was released to go home. I was speechless.... after everything today, I was about fatigued anyway, so I didn't ask any questions, checked out, turned off my phone and drove home before we got another several inches of snow.

Day was finally done.... and I learned my first two lessons about crew scheduling; No matter what you do or don't do, in scheduling's eyes, you are always guilty until proven innocent. And, scheduling is always 30 minutes late to the situation (sometimes longer).... they never know what is going on it seems.

I will leave you with a quote:

"Comair, because being pwn3d by Delta means everything!"
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Old 07-20-2009 | 07:54 PM
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Night before first SOE trip out of base suppose to have a hotel, training dept didnt arrange it get to the hotel nothing in the system only phone number that works is scheduling call they say you are in base not our problem. Tell them I'm on SOE out of base what am I suppose to do. Next day director of Training calls wants to know why I'm harassing scheduling about hotels when in base its my responsiblity.
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Old 07-20-2009 | 08:05 PM
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So I'm on IOE, my 2nd to last leg, landed in ATL. We had about 1.5 Hrs to kill, and all went our separate ways, planning to meet at the plane in a little while. Scheduling calls me and says I'm displaced, I'm gonna go to TUL and deadhead back to CVG. I say no problem, more than happy to do it, and by the way, is my new captain a check captain because I'm still on IOE. The phone got really quiet all of a sudden, and then I heard "You're kidding." I said, "Nope." They ended up displacing the captain as well, but they had to find him first.... I had the TUL airplane ready to go by the time they finally contacted him and he got to the plane. I think at that point he was satisfied that I was ready to be signed off.
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Old 07-20-2009 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thepotato232
Crew scheduling in Indy calling me at home - 0448 local time - to tell me they were short-staffed and needed me to report to my base airport ASAP for a trip... two days after my furlough.

"...Oh *giggles*, never mind."

Happened to me too. Day after my furlough i got assigned for 6am ready reserve. 8 fun filled hours of airport appreciation. I actually showed up, because I'm a big p*ssy, which is why i worked at initech to begin with
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Old 07-20-2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
Happened to me too. Day after my furlough i got assigned for 6am ready reserve. 8 fun filled hours of airport appreciation. I actually showed up, because I'm a big p*ssy, which is why i worked at initech to begin with
Yeah well, I work at Initech, and I don't consider myself a p*ssy, ok?

You actually showed up?
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Old 07-20-2009 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wheresmyplane
So I'm on IOE, my 2nd to last leg, landed in ATL. We had about 1.5 Hrs to kill, and all went our separate ways, planning to meet at the plane in a little while. Scheduling calls me and says I'm displaced, I'm gonna go to TUL and deadhead back to CVG. I say no problem, more than happy to do it, and by the way, is my new captain a check captain because I'm still on IOE. The phone got really quiet all of a sudden, and then I heard "You're kidding." I said, "Nope." They ended up displacing the captain as well, but they had to find him first.... I had the TUL airplane ready to go by the time they finally contacted him and he got to the plane. I think at that point he was satisfied that I was ready to be signed off.
Nice! I love the dead silence part the best! LOL!
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Old 07-20-2009 | 09:40 PM
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I got called for a trip with a first leg offline deadhead. I questioned the scheduler to be sure that I actually had a ticket, and was assured that I did, and was given a ticket locator number. When I showed up at the airport, I found out that that the airline that I had a ticket on had been out of business for two weeks. I hung around at the gate where the airline used to operate until about ten minutes after the departure time, and then went down to operations and mentioned my problem to the cheif pilot. In retrospect, I should have gone home and waited for the crew desk to call, and then told them that I was waiting for my flight to board.

Joe
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Old 07-21-2009 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
A wonderful Comair scheduling story for all to enjoy.... Allow me to set the scene:

So there I was, two weeks off of IOE in mid December, sitting in the Cleveland airport. This particular day, there was about 1" of snow on the ground and it was snowing moderately. I was on day 2 of a 3 day trip and this particular assignment had me deadheading back to CVG (on Chautauqua) at about 3pm for an hour break and then off to DSM for the overnight.

As the CA/FA and I show up at the gate, we notice there is no A/C at the gate. Given the weather we weren't surprised. We were informed that there was about an hour and a half delay. Now, just off of IOE, I had not had an opportunity to "learn" that scheduling does not EVER know what is going on. I assumed they had the ability to see that I was delayed and all was cool. (This would bite me in the arse... more on that in a bit).

The CHQ -135 shows up and we all board. As I sat in my seat, I pulled out my iPhone and turn on airplane mode. When doing this, I also check to see if I missed any calls or messages; there were none. As I settle into my seat and take a quick nap, we taxi out, deice and takeoff. About 60 minutes later, we were taxiing into concourse C in CVG.

After everyone deplanes, we slide out and pick up our bags. I turn on my cell phone to find 4 voicemails from scheduling. I didnt bother to listen to them and instead got on the computer right inside the terminal to see what my schedule had on it and how it had changed. When I pulled it up, I had an "SD" on my line. For those of you that don't know what an SD is, it is a Scheduling Discrepancy. Basically scheduling's way of flagging your schedule and forcing a telephone 'carpet dance' with a CP.

I called scheduling and told them that I just landed on my DH in CVG. They said I had been in for an hour and a half and my schedule had changed, I was due to fly a flight to TYS that was supposed to leave 45 minutes ago. Flight is already boarded and they were waiting on me. I said that we were delayed in CLE and I thought they knew about the delay.... it isn't my job to babysit you guys!! After going back and forth, they refused to remove the SD thinking I had purposefully avoided them and I had to call a CP to get it removed. I told the story to the CP, he laughed and explained to me that scheduling doesn't have the ability to see delays on offline carriers to track DH's. With the SD removed, I started to head over to the TYS aircraft so we could blast off.... At this point, I just wanted to get to the hotel. As I start up the stairs of the A/C, the pax all clap... trying to be professional and not show that I had about had it, I smiled, waved and quickly got to work. As I get my stuff settled in, the captain gets a call on his cell phone from scheduling re-assigning him to another flight.... He was livid, and at this point, I was too. Then scheduling asked to talk to me... so the CA handed me his phone, and I mustered out a rude "What!?". They said that the flight was cancelled and I was released to go home. I was speechless.... after everything today, I was about fatigued anyway, so I didn't ask any questions, checked out, turned off my phone and drove home before we got another several inches of snow.

Day was finally done.... and I learned my first two lessons about crew scheduling; No matter what you do or don't do, in scheduling's eyes, you are always guilty until proven innocent. And, scheduling is always 30 minutes late to the situation (sometimes longer).... they never know what is going on it seems.

I will leave you with a quote:

"Comair, because being pwn3d by Delta means everything!"
Diver, all I can say is WOW!!!!!!
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Old 07-21-2009 | 03:49 AM
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OK here is another Comair Classic

On IOE show up to the first flight of my career, meet the CA do the walk around start on some paperwork. CA asked "how long you been here" I say "well sir this is my first flight" he says "Oh congrats on finishing IOE" I say no this is IOE. Well someone has to go because he was not a check airmen.

A week later IOE starts for real day 2 we have a 3 hour sit in JFK. I get a call from scheduling displacing me and needing me to operate a flight right then. I tell them that I am on IOE, they say don't argue with me. The Check Airman get on the phone and attempts to give logic to these people. No luck, the phone is back at me now they ask if I am refusing a trip. I tell them I am not allowed to do the trip. Well they SD me cancel the rest of my trip. We get on the horn with the CP and the training people and after 3 deadheads and an overnight I got back on my trip.

And I wonder why Comair is slowly going towards extinction.
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