American Eagle Flight Benefits
06-28-2010, 12:06 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by Silverwings
Hey this is not really part of the subject but has to do with AE.
I found this comment on the Gouge for AE and caught my attention since I always heard that if you ever failed a check-ride you have to be honest, talk positively about it, say what you learned and you'll do just fine. But now somebody posted this, is it any true?
"If you've ever failed a check-ride, don't waste your time with this airline. You'll walk into Dallas, they'll ask everyone in the room if they've failed a check-ride, and if so, they'll tell you to get out. (06/23/10)"
Thanks guys
I found this comment on the Gouge for AE and caught my attention since I always heard that if you ever failed a check-ride you have to be honest, talk positively about it, say what you learned and you'll do just fine. But now somebody posted this, is it any true?
"If you've ever failed a check-ride, don't waste your time with this airline. You'll walk into Dallas, they'll ask everyone in the room if they've failed a check-ride, and if so, they'll tell you to get out. (06/23/10)"
Thanks guys
06-28-2010, 12:32 PM
#32
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Posts: 106
Originally Posted by JT8D
The guy who posted that probably forgot his logbook or made some other stupid mistake, didn't want to admit it, and therefore needed some other excuse as to why he got the boot. Don't worry about it, they wouldn't go through the time and expense to fly you out there just to send you home over something they could've uncovered in the pre-interview screening.
I trained using a foreign-based license and my original license was about to expire so I had a time limit to finish everything and take the check-ride, or I would have to fly back to Uruguay to renew it. I did very good on the ride but weather was deteriorating very rapidly so the examiner called it off for the day and rescheduled for 2 days later (one day before my Uruguayan license would expire) That day came and weather was still bad, so the examiner called earlier and told me and my CFI to get the plane and fly IFR to another airport about 35 miles away where weather was better and he also was closer to that airport.
So we flew IFR (I had the rating but not in the foreign-based license, so my CFI flew me to this airport, unknown to me)
There we resumed the check-ride, I took off and while climbing to my usual altitude for maneuvering he asked me to level off and tells me the ride was failed. I was about to get into B airspace
There he told me I could get an American medical certificate and could keep using the foreign-based license... bummer
So I got the medical and took the ride a couple weeks later and passed it with no problem.
What can I say, believe me I learned a lot from this experience, nothing similar to this will ever ever happen to me again.
But now I feel like I ruined my whole career and now will never get a job ever
06-28-2010, 02:18 PM
#33
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Posts: 618
Originally Posted by Silverwings
That's what I thought but wanted to know other people's thoughts. I did all my flight training (Commercial AMEL and CFII with over 980 TT) abroad in my native country (Uruguay) and moved to USA where I started re-validating all the licenses and ratings. I got busted in the first check-ride here in USA (Commercial ASEL)
I trained using a foreign-based license and my original license was about to expire so I had a time limit to finish everything and take the check-ride, or I would have to fly back to Uruguay to renew it. I did very good on the ride but weather was deteriorating very rapidly so the examiner called it off for the day and rescheduled for 2 days later (one day before my Uruguayan license would expire) That day came and weather was still bad, so the examiner called earlier and told me and my CFI to get the plane and fly IFR to another airport about 35 miles away where weather was better and he also was closer to that airport.
So we flew IFR (I had the rating but not in the foreign-based license, so my CFI flew me to this airport, unknown to me)
There we resumed the check-ride, I took off and while climbing to my usual altitude for maneuvering he asked me to level off and tells me the ride was failed. I was about to get into B airspace
There he told me I could get an American medical certificate and could keep using the foreign-based license... bummer
So I got the medical and took the ride a couple weeks later and passed it with no problem.
What can I say, believe me I learned a lot from this experience, nothing similar to this will ever ever happen to me again.
But now I feel like I ruined my whole career and now will never get a job ever
I trained using a foreign-based license and my original license was about to expire so I had a time limit to finish everything and take the check-ride, or I would have to fly back to Uruguay to renew it. I did very good on the ride but weather was deteriorating very rapidly so the examiner called it off for the day and rescheduled for 2 days later (one day before my Uruguayan license would expire) That day came and weather was still bad, so the examiner called earlier and told me and my CFI to get the plane and fly IFR to another airport about 35 miles away where weather was better and he also was closer to that airport.
So we flew IFR (I had the rating but not in the foreign-based license, so my CFI flew me to this airport, unknown to me)
There we resumed the check-ride, I took off and while climbing to my usual altitude for maneuvering he asked me to level off and tells me the ride was failed. I was about to get into B airspace
There he told me I could get an American medical certificate and could keep using the foreign-based license... bummer
So I got the medical and took the ride a couple weeks later and passed it with no problem.
What can I say, believe me I learned a lot from this experience, nothing similar to this will ever ever happen to me again.
But now I feel like I ruined my whole career and now will never get a job ever
Their main concern is that you are capable of making it through initial training. These days they may have more of an eye out for patterns of failed checkrides, especially since the Colgan crash, but one isolated event shouldn't be a deal breaker.
06-28-2010, 03:56 PM
#35
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Posts: 106
Originally Posted by JT8D
Nah you haven't ruined your career. So you made a mistake, who hasn't? Like you said before, disclose it when they ask, and during the interview when it comes up just give them a brief summary of what you said here.
Their main concern is that you are capable of making it through initial training. These days they may have more of an eye out for patterns of failed checkrides, especially since the Colgan crash, but one isolated event shouldn't be a deal breaker.
Their main concern is that you are capable of making it through initial training. These days they may have more of an eye out for patterns of failed checkrides, especially since the Colgan crash, but one isolated event shouldn't be a deal breaker.
06-28-2010, 07:14 PM
#36
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Position: Out of Regional Jet flying
Posts: 296
Originally Posted by JT8D
The guy who posted that probably forgot his logbook or made some other stupid mistake, didn't want to admit it, and therefore needed some other excuse as to why he got the boot. Don't worry about it, they wouldn't go through the time and expense to fly you out there just to send you home over something they could've uncovered in the pre-interview screening.
Last edited by MD11; 06-28-2010 at 07:17 PM. Reason: spelling
06-28-2010, 08:11 PM
#37
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Posts: 618
That's harsh man I'm sorry to hear that. Some of the things this company does defy all logic and reason, ESPECIALLY on the administrative level. I would consider it a miracle if they would actually get my d@mn paycheck correct for once...
They may have seen you as being overqualified and likely to jump ship sooner than they would like, who knows?
They may have seen you as being overqualified and likely to jump ship sooner than they would like, who knows?
06-29-2010, 07:35 AM
#38
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Position: Out of Regional Jet flying
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Originally Posted by JT8D
They may have seen you as being overqualified and likely to jump ship sooner than they would like, who knows?
Also, I had no intention of jumping ship later... I thought it would be cool to finish my flying career with essentially the same company that started my 121 career. I was wrong.
06-29-2010, 08:30 AM
#40
alchemist
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,089
Originally Posted by JT8D
The guy who posted that probably forgot his logbook or made some other stupid mistake, didn't want to admit it, and therefore needed some other excuse as to why he got the boot.
even more foolish is that he signed with a blue ink instead of black after being instructed.
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