Eagle Is Recalling
10-30-2009 | 06:43 AM
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(sorry, haven't posted on here enough to figure out how to quote multiple posters.) But don't forget the part in our contract that requires management to keep Eagle properly staffed. They can't just go around JMing pilots all day. Even an increase in frequency of JMs and someone's going to do something.
This might be something to think about for the next contract. Defined staffing levels, and defined penalties once they go below that level.
10-30-2009 | 07:07 AM
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To all those who say new hiring is decades away, don't be so quick to make firm pornouncements. You may be right, but the economy seems to be doing far better than anyone thought. Just the fact the economy has stopped going down has enabled some people to be recalled. Don't forget AirTran bought back all of its pilots and several others have brought a few back as well.
Maybe I'll be very wrong, but Eagle was hiring up to the day AMR announced furloughs in May 2008. It wasn't recalling until it started recalls last week. Point is, thing can change quickly. I mentioned this somewhere else, but a friend who is a captain for CHQ told me Tuesday he heard all furloughed pilots for Republic were supposed to be back by the spring. It's a rumor, but at least it's not bad.
Maybe I'll be very wrong, but Eagle was hiring up to the day AMR announced furloughs in May 2008. It wasn't recalling until it started recalls last week. Point is, thing can change quickly. I mentioned this somewhere else, but a friend who is a captain for CHQ told me Tuesday he heard all furloughed pilots for Republic were supposed to be back by the spring. It's a rumor, but at least it's not bad.
10-30-2009 | 08:13 AM
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If a company has "proper" or "enough" staffed pilots, then there will always be enough pilots to furlough. There will never be a such thing enough. We will always be short.
I've been on RSV for 2 years and have never been JM'd.
I've been on RSV for 2 years and have never been JM'd.
10-30-2009 | 08:21 AM
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Just think that if 5 pilots each pick up one 3 or 4 day trip each, that is one whole line that a furloughed pilot could be flying. I mean no ill will toward those who choose to pick up OT, but come on guys, lets get all our people back on payroll as soon as we can!!![/quote]
Yeah, hurry up, I can't wait to fly with another 500hr pilot who cant talk on the radio, fly a traffic pattern, read an arrival, or make a crosswind landing. Yeah, fun times!
Yeah, hurry up, I can't wait to fly with another 500hr pilot who cant talk on the radio, fly a traffic pattern, read an arrival, or make a crosswind landing. Yeah, fun times!
10-30-2009 | 09:49 AM
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we're all not that bad...but I'd agree most are...
10-30-2009 | 09:56 AM
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To all those who say new hiring is decades away, don't be so quick to make firm pornouncements. You may be right, but the economy seems to be doing far better than anyone thought. Just the fact the economy has stopped going down has enabled some people to be recalled. Don't forget AirTran bought back all of its pilots and several others have brought a few back as well.
Maybe I'll be very wrong, but Eagle was hiring up to the day AMR announced furloughs in May 2008. It wasn't recalling until it started recalls last week. Point is, thing can change quickly. I mentioned this somewhere else, but a friend who is a captain for CHQ told me Tuesday he heard all furloughed pilots for Republic were supposed to be back by the spring. It's a rumor, but at least it's not bad.
Maybe I'll be very wrong, but Eagle was hiring up to the day AMR announced furloughs in May 2008. It wasn't recalling until it started recalls last week. Point is, thing can change quickly. I mentioned this somewhere else, but a friend who is a captain for CHQ told me Tuesday he heard all furloughed pilots for Republic were supposed to be back by the spring. It's a rumor, but at least it's not bad.
10-30-2009 | 10:24 AM
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To all those who say new hiring is decades away, don't be so quick to make firm pornouncements. You may be right, but the economy seems to be doing far better than anyone thought. Just the fact the economy has stopped going down has enabled some people to be recalled. Don't forget AirTran bought back all of its pilots and several others have brought a few back as well.
Maybe I'll be very wrong, but Eagle was hiring up to the day AMR announced furloughs in May 2008. It wasn't recalling until it started recalls last week. Point is, thing can change quickly. I mentioned this somewhere else, but a friend who is a captain for CHQ told me Tuesday he heard all furloughed pilots for Republic were supposed to be back by the spring. It's a rumor, but at least it's not bad.
Maybe I'll be very wrong, but Eagle was hiring up to the day AMR announced furloughs in May 2008. It wasn't recalling until it started recalls last week. Point is, thing can change quickly. I mentioned this somewhere else, but a friend who is a captain for CHQ told me Tuesday he heard all furloughed pilots for Republic were supposed to be back by the spring. It's a rumor, but at least it's not bad.
Mass airline hiring happends about every 10 years or so. Also, do you fly for us? If you did, you would know that the economy hasn't made an upswing with AMR or about 95% of the rest of the airline industry of the world.
10-30-2009 | 01:45 PM
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People mistook what I wrote. In May 2008, AMR announced capacity reductions and the freezing of all new hiring. It was at that point Eagle cancelled any new hiring. I wasn't alking about Eagle's own decision so much as I was talking about the parent company's decision.
10-30-2009 | 05:44 PM
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10-30-2009 | 05:58 PM
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The proposed legislation gives 2 (or is it 3?) years for implementation after it is passed. If/when airlines hire before that due date they will not be held to the 1500/ATP mins.
To drive this further off topic...
Anyone think there will be a mass hiring before the rules take effect in order to get as many low time FOs as possible (so that they wont be able to leave for greener pastures, and probably willing to work for lower wages)?
Someone take the wheel and get this thread back on the road!
To drive this further off topic...
Anyone think there will be a mass hiring before the rules take effect in order to get as many low time FOs as possible (so that they wont be able to leave for greener pastures, and probably willing to work for lower wages)?
Someone take the wheel and get this thread back on the road!
wow, i thought is was 3 years for all thos who dont have ATP mins already flying at 121 carier have the grace period. could be wrong. But, no airline is going to hire below the new mins coming just for liability reasons, becasue there is a law in place and an expectation.
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