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Old 12-13-2009 | 10:27 AM
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I know I have read two different versions of the boarding priorities for all DCI carriers on mainline flights, both wholly owned and non-wholly owned's.
One version is seniority by wholly-owned's, followed by the non-wholly owned's...ie: XJ gets on before a 9E employee, regardless of the XJ hire date. Then I read again where all of the DCI employees are by seniority, regardless of DCI affiliation...if a 9E agent has a higher hire date over a XJ agent, 9E gets the seat first. The latter explanation was due to something about DLNet..all DCI carriers are S3C on mainline (and depending on the regional aircraft, who the employee works for) but can someone please clarify?

Are Pinnacle employees the only ones who do not have S2's for DCI? I know XJ, OH and CP get them..not sure about ASA, Freedom, etc; I saw a XJ (maybe OH) employee listed as a S2 on a Pinnacle flight but even as 9E employees, we can't even use them on our own aircraft so the wholly-owneds have the higher boarding priority when they use those S2's. (FYI).

Hopefully they @ DL will at least let Pinnacle employees enjoy some less-restrictive flight benefits at the first of the year.
My spouse will be going to Europe in a few days..I've used all 3 of my Int'l travel days and she hasnt used any and neither have our kids. (the kids' allotment will probably go unused this year, which will be lost, since they can't be given to the other pass riders).

I will be going along with her, but on a ZED..right behind all the buddy pass riders at the bottom- they'll get the first class seats before a DCI employee on a ZED..at least on this particular flight. Oh well....
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Old 12-13-2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nightice
I know I have read two different versions of the boarding priorities for all DCI carriers on mainline flights, both wholly owned and non-wholly owned's.
One version is seniority by wholly-owned's, followed by the non-wholly owned's...ie: XJ gets on before a 9E employee, regardless of the XJ hire date. Then I read again where all of the DCI employees are by seniority, regardless of DCI affiliation...if a 9E agent has a higher hire date over a XJ agent, 9E gets the seat first. The latter explanation was due to something about DLNet..all DCI carriers are S3C on mainline (and depending on the regional aircraft, who the employee works for) but can someone please clarify?

Are Pinnacle employees the only ones who do not have S2's for DCI? I know XJ, OH and CP get them..not sure about ASA, Freedom, etc; I saw a XJ (maybe OH) employee listed as a S2 on a Pinnacle flight but even as 9E employees, we can't even use them on our own aircraft so the wholly-owneds have the higher boarding priority when they use those S2's. (FYI).

Hopefully they @ DL will at least let Pinnacle employees enjoy some less-restrictive flight benefits at the first of the year.
My spouse will be going to Europe in a few days..I've used all 3 of my Int'l travel days and she hasnt used any and neither have our kids. (the kids' allotment will probably go unused this year, which will be lost, since they can't be given to the other pass riders).

I will be going along with her, but on a ZED..right behind all the buddy pass riders at the bottom- they'll get the first class seats before a DCI employee on a ZED..at least on this particular flight. Oh well....
SKYW travels S3C on mainline DL. S3 on company. Gets 3 upgraded S2 days/year.

Hope that helps!
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Old 12-13-2009 | 10:47 AM
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DCI is complicated, and it is not consistent across the various feeders. It seems to come down to what your company is willing to negotiate for you.

This is SKW priority (I assume ASA is the same).

Mainline:
S3C by DOH. DL (S3) and DL retirees (S3B) are ahead of us. Not sure if WO's get S3B.


SKW:
S3 by DOH. This puts ahead of mainline and other DCI's, which have S3C.

We also get three S2 upgrades per year on SKW only. This puts you ahead of other SKW empoyees who did not use an S2 upgrade.

I know that 9E does not have as good of an arrangement.
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Old 12-13-2009 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nightice
I know I have read two different versions of the boarding priorities for all DCI carriers on mainline flights, both wholly owned and non-wholly owned's. </P>
One version is seniority by wholly-owned's, followed by the non-wholly owned's...ie: XJ gets on before a 9E employee, regardless of the XJ hire date. Then I read again where all of the DCI employees are by seniority, regardless of DCI affiliation...if a 9E agent has a higher hire date over a XJ agent, 9E gets the seat first. The latter explanation was due to something about DLNet..all DCI carriers are S3C on mainline (and depending on the regional aircraft, who the employee works for) but can someone please clarify? Are Pinnacle employees the only ones who do not have S2's for DCI? I know XJ, OH and CP get them..not sure about ASA, Freedom, etc; I saw a XJ (maybe OH) employee listed as a S2 on a Pinnacle flight but even as 9E employees, we can't even use them on our own aircraft so the wholly-owneds have the higher boarding priority when they use those S2's. (FYI).
Hopefully they @ DL will at least let Pinnacle employees enjoy some less-restrictive flight benefits at the first of the year.

My spouse will be going to Europe in a few days..I've used all 3 of my Int'l travel days and she hasnt used any and neither have our kids. (the kids' allotment will probably go unused this year, which will be lost, since they can't be given to the other pass riders).

I will be going along with her, but on a ZED..right behind all the buddy pass riders at the bottom- they'll get the first class seats before a DCI employee on a ZED..at least on this particular flight. Oh well....<IMG class=inlineimg title=Frown border=0 alt="" src="http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/frown.gif" smilieid="11">
WO like XJ, OH, CZ only get 6 S2s per year. I agree with you that your travel benefit sucks. I heard that was due to 9e management chose to opt for a cheaper version for travel benefits whereas SkyWest opted for more expensive options.&nbsp; I am not aware that travel benefits for DCIs will change next year.&nbsp; It's supposed to remain the way it is right now.

BTW, I think you guys are doing a great job despite not so good work rules. Everytime I try to jumpseat on 9e flights, you guys try your best to get me on even though many times those CRJ2s seem to be weight restricted. I return this favor by making sure you guys get on our flights. The other day, we gave rides to 9e guys/gals and we made sure they sat up front in the First Class. I have nothing but good things to say about Pinnacle pilots and FAs.
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Old 12-13-2009 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
WO like XJ, OH, CZ only get 6 S2s per year. I agree with you that your travel benefit sucks. I heard that was due to 9e management chose to opt for a cheaper version for travel benefits whereas SkyWest opted for more expensive options.&nbsp; I am not aware that travel benefits for DCIs will change next year.&nbsp; It's supposed to remain the way it is right now.

BTW, I think you guys are doing a great job despite not so good work rules. Everytime I try to jumpseat on 9e flights, you guys try your best to get me on even though many times those CRJ2s seem to be weight restricted. I return this favor by making sure you guys get on our flights. The other day, we gave rides to 9e guys/gals and we made sure they sat up front in the First Class. I have nothing but good things to say about Pinnacle pilots and FAs.
I am glad you have had good crews so far. I will tell you that there are alot of guys here that wont do the extra work to a get a j/s on. Mostly the guys that dont commute.
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Old 12-13-2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mia389
I am glad you have had good crews so far. I will tell you that there are alot of guys here that wont do the extra work to a get a j/s on. Mostly the guys that dont commute.
you must not fly very often...or you fly with the same CA over and over...
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Nevermind...

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Old 12-13-2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
you must not fly very often...or you fly with the same CA over and over...

Or I am based in a different base than you
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Old 12-13-2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
DCI is complicated, and it is not consistent across the various feeders. It seems to come down to what your company is willing to negotiate for you.

This is SKW priority (I assume ASA is the same).

Mainline:
S3C by DOH. DL (S3) and DL retirees (S3B) are ahead of us. Not sure if WO's get S3B.


SKW:
S3 by DOH. This puts ahead of mainline and other DCI's, which have S3C.

We also get three S2 upgrades per year on SKW only. This puts you ahead of other SKW empoyees who did not use an S2 upgrade.

I know that 9E does not have as good of an arrangement.
ASA is the same.
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