Colgan's fatigue policy....
01-08-2010, 09:31 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by plasticpi
I understand your outrage, but we also have to be careful not to make it seem like passengers are in serious danger when they step foot on a regional airliner, because they're not. A national TV campaign sensationalizing our work rules, pay, etc. could very likely have a negative effect on all of us.
You say that now but wait until your wanting more money or more days off in your next contract. You will be calling every reporter to cover the story as you picket your airlines hub. Pressure from the public can be a good thing.
And last time I checked, getting on an regional airliner with two pilots falling asleep, is dangerous. How quickly we all forget.
01-09-2010, 09:34 AM
#112
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Originally Posted by DCH Pilot
You say that now but wait until your wanting more money or more days off in your next contract. You will be calling every reporter to cover the story as you picket your airlines hub. Pressure from the public can be a good thing.
And last time I checked, getting on an regional airliner with two pilots falling asleep, is dangerous. How quickly we all forget.
And last time I checked, getting on an regional airliner with two pilots falling asleep, is dangerous. How quickly we all forget.
01-12-2010, 08:10 AM
#114
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Originally Posted by plasticpi
Lets let our negotiating committee work on the fatigue clause in our contract. That will get a lot more done than a media frenzy. Those just lead to knee-jerk overreactions that don't fix the problem.
Last edited by Nevets; 01-12-2010 at 10:42 AM.
01-12-2010, 10:55 AM
#115
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Originally Posted by Nevets
No one should ever have to negotiate for reasonable safety measures! This is what congress is supposed to be for. Unfortunately I think we sometimes have no other choice.
It is completely ridiculous that we as airline pilots have to expend negotiating capitol on things such as fatigue policies and duty/rest rules. That IS NOT compensation WHATSOEVER. We are paying to make the airline safe because the airline and the FAA won't.
02-03-2010, 02:43 AM
#116
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CNN Reporter Checking Colgan Fatigue Policy
Please contact me via e-mail today (2/3/10) if you are a current or former Colgan employee who can speak about the fatigue policy. Thank you.
[email protected]
[email protected]
02-03-2010, 03:54 AM
#117
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Originally Posted by CNNreporter
Please contact me via e-mail today (2/3/10) if you are a current or former Colgan employee who can speak about the fatigue policy. Thank you.
[email protected]
[email protected]
Yeah... good luck with that.
02-03-2010, 06:35 AM
#118
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Originally Posted by belliott
Yeah... good luck with that.
He is on the pilot’s side. He is trying to make the public aware of our pay, working conditions, and the rules we abide too. Without the help of reporters getting this information out to the public, things will never change for us.
So next time you complain about pay, schedule, fatigue, and how your airline is screwing you and how your union sucks, just remember that your contributing to it by not opening your mouth when you have the opportunity.
P.S: If I worked for Colgan I would be all over this opportunity contingent upon one written agreement: My name wouldn’t be used and my face wouldn’t been shown to avoid management reprocussion.
The ignorance people demonstrate amazes me…
02-03-2010, 07:02 AM
#119
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[QUOTE=StrikeTime;756977]Since you don’t understand, let me offer you a crystal clear explanation of what this reporter is trying to do:
He is on the pilot’s side. He is trying to make the public aware of our pay, working conditions, and the rules we abide too. Without the help of reporters getting this information out to the public, things will never change for us.
So next time you complain about pay, schedule, fatigue, and how your airline is screwing you and how your union sucks, just remember that your contributing to it by not opening your mouth when you have the opportunity.
P.S: If I worked for Colgan I would be all over this opportunity contingent upon one written agreement: My name wouldn’t be used and my face wouldn’t been shown to avoid management reprocussion.
The ignorance people demonstrate amazes me…[/QUOTE
Great post!
This is a CNN reporter, this is a great opportunity to expose these ridiculous policies. I'm sure your identity would be protected. I would hope to think he's going to be flooded by responses!
He is on the pilot’s side. He is trying to make the public aware of our pay, working conditions, and the rules we abide too. Without the help of reporters getting this information out to the public, things will never change for us.
So next time you complain about pay, schedule, fatigue, and how your airline is screwing you and how your union sucks, just remember that your contributing to it by not opening your mouth when you have the opportunity.
P.S: If I worked for Colgan I would be all over this opportunity contingent upon one written agreement: My name wouldn’t be used and my face wouldn’t been shown to avoid management reprocussion.
The ignorance people demonstrate amazes me…[/QUOTE
Great post!
This is a CNN reporter, this is a great opportunity to expose these ridiculous policies. I'm sure your identity would be protected. I would hope to think he's going to be flooded by responses!
02-03-2010, 08:02 AM
#120
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Originally Posted by CNNreporter
Please contact me via e-mail today (2/3/10) if you are a current or former Colgan employee who can speak about the fatigue policy. Thank you.
[email protected]
[email protected]
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