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JoeyMeatballs 01-28-2010 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 752958)
are EWR and IAD junior?

I would imagine IAD is probably more senior than EWR, both are very expensive places to live, IAD is less of a Cluster though...........

I bet the IAH Q will go the most senior

I have no idea of any of the above, just my guess :)


As far as people going to Colgan, I have no problem with anyone going there, but go there not only as a place to gain experience, but get involved in the Union, and leave it a better place then it was when you showed up. Do not go there to just get your time and get out, taking abuse your whole tenor there. You never know when the economy/industry will bounce back or come crashing down again so you may be at a place longer than expected, make it tolerable

jdalbrec 01-28-2010 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 752976)
I would imagine IAD is probably more senior than EWR, both are very expensive places to live, IAD is less of a Cluster though...........

I bet the IAH Q will go the most senior

From what people have told me, in addition to the regional chief pilot in ewr, it would go, IAH, EWR, and then IAD (from most to least senior). They definitely said IAH was most senior and will probably stay that way. I could see IAD also staying junior just because they're not planning on putting any Q's there, but i'm just speculating.

brewpilot 01-28-2010 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by jdalbrec (Post 752988)
From what people have told me, in addition to the regional chief pilot in ewr, it would go, IAH, EWR, and then IAD (from most to least senior). They definitely said IAH was most senior and will probably stay that way. I could see IAD also staying junior just because they're not planning on putting any Q's there, but i'm just speculating.

Everybody new on the saab will go to IAD. And to EWR if on the Q. It's not for sure but those are the two junior bases for the types.

jdalbrec 01-28-2010 06:48 AM

where were you based in the saab?

brewpilot 01-28-2010 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by jdalbrec (Post 753002)
where were you based in the saab?

I was in IAH

jdalbrec 01-28-2010 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by brewpilot (Post 753015)
I was in IAH

you like it down there?

plasticpi 01-28-2010 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by brewpilot (Post 752994)
Everybody new on the saab will go to IAD. And to EWR if on the Q. It's not for sure but those are the two junior bases for the types.

I think there may be a number of new hires going to Saab FO, and Q FO for that matter, in IAH, especially since there are already a bunch of FOs there awarded an upgrade. Before the awards for the Q base there, sure, you'd need some seniority to be likely to get IAH, but with it doubling in size, it's not going to be that hard to get, if you want it, particularly if you're in one of the first new-hire classes. The later ones will have to fight over the leftovers.

I got awarded IAH as the most junior non-street CA, so it can't be too terribly senior now with the growth.

bradeku1008 01-28-2010 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by plasticpi (Post 753029)
I think there may be a number of new hires going to Saab FO, and Q FO for that matter, in IAH, especially since there are already a bunch of FOs there awarded an upgrade. Before the awards for the Q base there, sure, you'd need some seniority to be likely to get IAH, but with it doubling in size, it's not going to be that hard to get, if you want it, particularly if you're in one of the first new-hire classes. The later ones will have to fight over the leftovers.

I got awarded IAH as the most junior non-street CA, so it can't be too terribly senior now with the growth.

Chuck was saying that we are all going to be a Sabb class in February. Unless something has changed and a lot of people didn't want to upgrade to the Q400. Hopefully we will be able to pick our own base if in the first class, but it looks like they need pilots out of IAD.

ChipChelios 01-28-2010 08:02 AM

Yes, I think most of the first class will be going to IAD and/or CRW. We have additional flying out of Dulles starting around April. CRW because I think around three CRW FO's just snatched up a few IAD vacancies on the most recent vacancy award.

kalyx522 01-28-2010 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by FL450 (Post 752918)
Colgan ( you can ask USMC or I can give you friends numbers who work for Colgan) is NOT hiring into the Q they are hiring due to current pilots being upgraded. Some current Colgan Saab Captains are moving into the Q as Captains, Some FO's are moving to Q FO's Some Saab FO's are moving to SAAB captains. The "NEW HIRES" as of right now are going to the Saab FO spots.

Colgan picked up a few more Saabs for United in addition to the 15 Q;'s comming in the Fall.

OK you are obviously under a misconception. Colgan IS hiring for the Q. Q growth is the root reason for the hiring. They are not hiring "due to current pilots being upgraded" - pilots don't upgrade for no reason. There are only 2 ways an FO can upgrade to CA - attrition or growth. There is no attrition at Colgan (or anywhere else) but there is growth (more Qs). Current Saab CAs able to move into the Q because of the new planes coming, and the senior FOs are able to upgrade because of the spots left open by the transitioning CAs.

Also, I don't know what you are talking about more Saabs for United. I have heard this rumor but I believe this rumor has been around for at least a year and half that I can remember. (When Buddy talked about new United flying in the front of one of those newsletters, and then the new flying never materialized.) Maybe they are telling interviewees official news that they are not bothering to tell their own employees. I don't believe anything until I see it. In any case, I don't know how we can be picking up any more Saabs - don't we have 3-4 leftover Saabs from closing several US Airways flying last year?


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