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DeadStick 09-09-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 868276)
If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC. This logged PIC time would open doors up for some mid seniority pilots to move on sooner.

Have fun explaining that on an interview. ;)

onetogo 09-09-2010 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 868276)
It is true that there are quite a few Captains at the top who are not going anywhere until they can't pass their medical or retire, which is an unknown percentage of approximately 600 pilots, if I remember the numbers correctly. This does mean that the remaining 800 Captains would have to move on relatively quickly (assuming no growth) for most of the FO's to have a shot at moving on. If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC. This logged PIC time would open doors up for some mid seniority pilots to move on sooner, which would result in movement for most of the FO's, and could actually result in a lower overall operating cost since the average FO salary would go down with the average FO seniority. Just a thought.

Not to sound rude, but the fact that you are even suggesting this makes it clear that you have a lot to learn about Eagle, and the regional industry as a whole.

I think I read that you are hoping to start class here eventually. Why don't you revisit that question once you get out on the line...

Flyby1206 09-10-2010 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 868276)
If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC.

In the Part 121 world it isnt acceptable to log PIC time when you arent truly acting as PIC. The PIC signs a flight release for each flight, and this is when you can log Part 121 PIC. I know the regs are hazy, and lots of corp/part 135 guys do it differently, but trust me. You dont want to go logging time in the right seat of an airliner as PIC time even if you do have a type rating.

RJ Pilot 09-10-2010 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by onetogo (Post 868354)
Not to sound rude, but the fact that you are even suggesting this makes it clear that you have a lot to learn about Eagle, and the regional industry as a whole.

I think I read that you are hoping to start class here eventually. Why don't you revisit that question once you get out on the line...

Are we back hiring 500hr wonders?:confused::D:D

PilotJ3 09-10-2010 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 866739)
ATR is an awesome airplane..and the island flying is second to none.

The problems with Eagle's island flying is the 9 hour over nights..pretty much everywhere you go.it's only 9 hours. Not so much fun :(

But the views..oh my!


I don't fly on eagle, but...hey!!! Flying in the caribbean wonderful. =) I teach in a flight school in SIG, like 5nm from SJU...and I hope to get ATR in SJU if I get hired by eagle. :) If not is ok... I'll go anywhere :)

ERJF15 09-10-2010 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 868276)
If, however, a PIC type rating was attainable out of initial training, it would help some pilots move on earlier as they could LOG PIC time anytime they were the Sole Manipulator of the flight controls, even though they aren't Acting as PIC. This logged PIC time would open doors up for some mid seniority pilots to move on sooner, which would result in movement for most of the FO's, and could actually result in a lower overall operating cost since the average FO salary would go down with the average FO seniority. Just a thought.


WOW? Seriously?

withthatsaid182 09-10-2010 07:41 AM

What happened to SABRE on jetnet?! :confused:

ERJF15 09-10-2010 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 868513)
What happened to SABRE on jetnet?! :confused:

It's down...

onetogo 09-10-2010 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 868513)
What happened to SABRE on jetnet?! :confused:

Gone for me too.

AtlCSIP 09-10-2010 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by onetogo (Post 868354)
Not to sound rude, but the fact that you are even suggesting this makes it clear that you have a lot to learn about Eagle, and the regional industry as a whole.

I think I read that you are hoping to start class here eventually. Why don't you revisit that question once you get out on the line...

You don't sound rude, just short sighted and possibly ignorant. Last time I checked, the aviation industry wasn't made up entirely of American Eagle pilots, or even just regional airline pilots. My comment said that a PIC type could provide opportunities in the future. These opportunities could be international, Part 91 corporate or private, or Part 135. How many guys do you know who would choose to move out of Part 121 flying to fly a small jet or turbo prop for 50k - 80k a year, be home 90% of the time, and never have to worry about Crew Scheduling calling at 5:00 am? I bet quite a few pilots would be interested, and those opportunities could be possible with enough logged PIC time. Of course you could not say that you were the PIC under Part 121 operations, and I never insinuated that. Open your eyes, man. There is whole big aviation world outside of Regional Part 121, and some people might just go there after Eagle!

As far as what to say in an interview; always tell the truth. That way you don't have to keep track of what you said.


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