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RJ Pilot 08-09-2011 03:53 PM

Thought the latest from the union was the parking of ATR's starting next year with NO new turboprop replacement.

bcpilot 08-09-2011 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by BaronRouge380 (Post 1036305)
Hey BCPILOT, what were your times when you applied?
I am at about 800/34, waiting for the 50 multi to send an application. 50 multi may be their bare minimum.

752/140 so I don;t know what is the reason of no call..

You are abt to reach your PM ability, email me if you are interested in talking more....

be76flyer 08-09-2011 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 1036374)
Great, so 700 and ATR are safe due to scope. So your saying after 3-5 years the 135's will or should start go away and AMR will rebid these routes? And could they abolish the contract early if they file bankruptcy?

The ATRs will be gone by 2014
I don't think they are going to put the flying up for bid. I think in 3-5 years the flying is just going to go away. The 50 seat RJs are beginning to time out and nobody is making a 50 seater. So my guess is you are going to see 2 for 1. Parking 2/3 RJs and replacing then with 1/2 bigger RJs or 1/2 mainline planes.

stbloc 08-09-2011 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by be76flyer (Post 1036382)
The ATRs will be gone by 2014
I don't think they are going to put the flying up for bid. I think in 3-5 years the flying is just going to go away. The 50 seat RJs are beginning to time out and nobody is making a 50 seater. So my guess is you are going to see 2 for 1. Parking 2/3 RJs and replacing then with 1/2 bigger RJs or 1/2 mainline planes.

So your thinking the airline will shrink approximately 60%. It makes sense becase remember Eagle now has to answere to share holders and needs to be profitable or risk liquidation. They no longer have AMR's pocket book to dip into.

be76flyer 08-09-2011 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 1036387)
So your thinking the airline will shrink approximately 60%. It makes sense becase remember Eagle now has to answere to share holders and needs to be profitable or risk liquidation. They no longer have AMR's pocket book to dip into.

I think regional flying as a whole is going to shrink 20%-30%. Eagle will fall in line with every other regional and shrink by the same amount.

Flywife 08-09-2011 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1036370)
Oh Fly, in this business you never choose "Short Term" you may find yourself stuck for a while... :rolleyes:

Yeah, well, I feel like I'm losing that battle on the homefront-I think the hubs has "Eagle eyes"...

bcpilot 08-09-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Flywife (Post 1036400)
Yeah, well, I feel like I'm losing that battle on the homefront-I think the hubs has "Eagle eyes"...

If he has decided EAGLE, then he is right.. If I had both offers, I would Pick EAGLE also

lakehouse 08-09-2011 05:12 PM

guys and gals come on, stop the doom gloom, and stop with the comair/xjet crying. Lets remember Mesaba and Compass also just got spun off. I think we are more inline with Compass then any other one out there. Comair would be better off if they actually got spun off!

With so many people going to AA, I think people will be happy to be at Eagle right now IF THIS IS A STEPPING STONE. I think we will have a lower upgrade over the next few years, its going to take 5 years for AA to really start bidding out the flying, by then this 10 year lag the industry has been in will be gone and people will be getting the jobs they always dreamed of. IMHO.

RJ Pilot 08-09-2011 06:08 PM

I think every new hire has nothing to lose really by coming to Eagle. Its could be good thing or a bad thing, just like anywhere you go.

stbloc 08-09-2011 06:29 PM

I agree. But with all the others hiring I would look at options. You don't want to get stuck in an airline decreasing its fleet. Eagle has many guys who are lifers which will bring upgrade time back up. If Eagle gives you the best QQL I say go for it. If your chasing upgrade go somewhere else. Its a crap shoot with many variables.


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