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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Flywife
You obviously haven't heard about the flow up number. Why any pilot wouldn't go to Eagle for that reason alone is beyond me. Eagle is a great place to be right now.
Flow up? If BK happens how much capacity do you think would get cut. You could make it to another Major twice as fast then waiting for that pie in the sky? Look i'm not trying to ruin any dreams here but you need to look at the reality. look at all other airlines that put in a flow agreement and tell me how great those worked out for the pilots. Why would this be any better Plus going through BK a judge can toss anything out. I know your excited but BK is very messy and I hope for all new hires it doesn't happen.
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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Have they improved the training department at Colgan?

Well since its all being run now by Mesaba, I would say so. There's almost no Colganites in the higher ups. Infact, you'll soon Here "Mesaba" rather than Colgan callsigns in the near future.
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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
I was talking NON REV not JS, and AE has by far the best non rev in the industry, at least for 5 more years.

AND no one wants to loose their job, its not even funny to ruffle about. I feel terrible for the COMAIR guys, and trying to wish us the same fate is just sick, but maybe Karma will work it all out. Maybe you need to go watch some 'hey my name is earl'
Dude, we have non-rev ability on United/CAL/US Airways, plus whom ever else that has CASS/ID90's/ZED FARES ect. This includes, wives, family members, companions (girlfriend or other) It's not a huge issue.

Second, I don't wish ill on any pilot group. I just feel that AE is misleading a young pilot crop into the "golden ticket" scheme of getting an AA flow up. Think about it... Before the "golden ticket" AE wasn't getting many applications. Now, they sweeten the pot or so it seems, and they're bombarded with apps. Oh the SJS will wear off when more Q's are brought into the mix and not by us.... There's an order from a north american carrier to order Q400's. Rumor is Trans States and Skywest. It's not us because we need to staff the 9E and Saab flying before we can take on more aircraft.
Watch out Mighty 145's. The trubro-prop is coming to get ya
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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stbloc
But you just said oil was going down. So trading a free and clear asset for a payment puts them in a better position? Or is it the obsolete 35 seat jets that turns you on? You can bet those will all head to the sands in a BK filing.Wait how do they finance new jets in BK.
they are 37 and 44 and are a small part of the fleet, and it is better than having all 50 seat jets, but having a ton of routes that depart EVERY SINGLE DAY with 25 people on the flight.
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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flywife
You obviously haven't heard about the flow up number. Why any pilot wouldn't go to Eagle for that reason alone is beyond me. Eagle is a great place to be right now.
it's not the only game in town. Given the chance, I'm out. If I'm here, I'm here. It took how many years for out flow throughs to get to AA? Coming to EGL for just the flow may or may not be a good idea.
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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:41 PM
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Now that AMR is one step closer to BK how attractive do they look now? I would expect 20%-30% capacity cut and all pilots taking a large pay cut. What's interesting is now that Eagle is on it's own I wonder how easy a BK court can trow out the exclusive contract and put lift up for bid. I would expect job security for a new hire nonresistance if BK is to be filed. With Eagle flying equipment thats obsolete I would expect TSA and others to to be winners of AMR lift.
First, Eagle has not been spun off or sold. AMR has been selling or spinning eagle everytime they were in contract talks. So, best advice is to wait until they actually do something instead if simply threatening.

Second, last I checked there is no exclusive contract with eagle from AMR. in fact, until and if they are separated they dint even have more than a one page contract... which says they do what AA/AMR says.

Third, Obsolete aurcraft according to who? That idiot Boyd?? A wise man once said, nobody ever went broke flying too small am airplane. The same can't be said for too large an airplane.

Fourth, AMR's theoretical plan is to transfer the planes to AA along with the majority of the debts by buying them from Eagle.... So, eagle gets a pile if cash and can buy what they want.
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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
I was talking NON REV not JS, and AE has by far the best non rev in the industry, at least for 5 more years.

AND no one wants to loose their job, its not even funny to ruffle about. I feel terrible for the COMAIR guys, and trying to wish us the same fate is just sick, but maybe Karma will work it all out. Maybe you need to go watch some 'hey my name is earl'
Dude, we have non-rev ability on United/CAL/US Airways, plus whom ever else that has CASS/ID90's/ZED....ya
What??? You are confusing jumpseating and non-revving. You're wife or son is not going to non-rev on USAir if you're employed at Eagle. They may ZED or ID90 but that ain't non-rev.
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Old 09-06-2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stbloc
But you just said oil was going down. So trading a free and clear asset for a payment puts them in a better position? Or is it the obsolete 35 seat jets that turns you on? You can bet those will all head to the sands in a BK filing.Wait how do they finance new jets in BK.
Didnt knew we flew 35 seat jets.
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Old 09-06-2011 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
Dude, we have non-rev ability on United/CAL/US Airways, plus whom ever else that has CASS/ID90's/ZED FARES ect. This includes, wives, family members, companions (girlfriend or other) It's not a huge issue.

Second, I don't wish ill on any pilot group. I just feel that AE is misleading a young pilot crop into the "golden ticket" scheme of getting an AA flow up. Think about it... Before the "golden ticket" AE wasn't getting many applications. Now, they sweeten the pot or so it seems, and they're bombarded with apps. Oh the SJS will wear off when more Q's are brought into the mix and not by us.... There's an order from a north american carrier to order Q400's. Rumor is Trans States and Skywest. It's not us because we need to staff the 9E and Saab flying before we can take on more aircraft.
Watch out Mighty 145's. The trubro-prop is coming to get ya
Ask AMR how Trans State work for them....
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Old 09-06-2011 | 06:11 PM
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Breaking off topic, this is what I saw today... JOBS for 737-800

Yeah, that is true...... this is the lowest minimums I have seen so far.......

All they need is a valid ICAO Commercial Instrument with 1000 TT & 500 hrs on an aircraft more than 10,000 Kgs (approx 22,000 lbs) MTOW or 19 seats.....

Hong Kong Airlines ? Hong Kong to Worldwide Air tickets, Online Special Air fares and Airline Reservation


I don't have the times but I am sure someone can benefit from this......

So, If any one is tired of playing "my regional is better ....." there are oppertunities beyond the horizon.........

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