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odog1121 09-16-2011 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1055280)
No argument there. I knew many of the same senior captains. They were a minority whereas, now most of the new breed gets upset when they're not 27 year old captains flying 100-seat jet airliners.

That didn't exist 10-20 years ago, but it's practically standard new-guy philosophy now. In fact, the ravenous hunger of poaching other regionals is rampant as well. The irony at Eagle will soon be the horrific whining when alas, Eagle becomes the next poachee and the new breed cries to the gods screaming, "why me, why me".

Where do you get "most" from? Lol, me and no one I know are crying because we aren't 50 seat captains, in fact "just about all" are very content with where we are.

As far was eager to poach other flying, what???? Who do you hang out with that wants that?

And 20 years ago, the upgrade was what at the "eagles"? 10 months? What's there to complain about. I fail to see your arguments.

eaglefly 09-16-2011 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by odog1121 (Post 1055290)
Where do you get "most" from? Lol, me and no one I know are crying because we aren't 50 seat captains, in fact "just about all" are very content with where we are.

As far was eager to poach other flying, what???? Who do you hang out with that wants that?

And 20 years ago, the upgrade was what at the "eagles"? 10 months? What's there to complain about. I fail to see your arguments.

Your faliure to see anything that doesn't work for you, surprises me not. Feel free to continue laughing though.

The upgrade at my Eagle in 1991 was 5 years and new-hires needed 2000TT/500 multi.

My advice is to laugh while you can.

PilotJ3 09-16-2011 10:38 AM



Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1054984)
They told us today that Eagle expects to hire 720 guys for next year. iPads on the way they hope to get full approval for the EB in 2nd Q 2012, initial 6 months test starts next month.

As a potential new hire at Eagle, I've been wondering about the 720 number as well. That would be terrific news for a new hire today, as you'd reach roughly 50% seniority on the FO side in only a year. However, AA is only looking at 5 mandatory retirements in 2012, notwithstanding all the early retirements. What am I missing that would warrant 720 new hires next year?
Again, is not how much people you have below. Is how much people above you move.

AA lost 100+ captains last month. Even only 5 guys have to go next year, people is retiring before that.

I moved 200 numbers up in a year, and they have hired like 350 to 400 in this year. I'm still on reserve... ;) figure it out.

theaviator 09-16-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 1055278)
Use this: CrewAid

Thats exactly what I needed thanks!

lakehouse 09-16-2011 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1055156)
Well...I'm an ERJ FO and it has officially been 9 days since I last flew. On any given day I have anywhere from 9 to 14 guys below me on reserve. I keep bidding RAP 2 or 1 and never get a call.

I'm getting so spoiled that I am actually going to bid for a RSV schedule next month again even though I can hold a line. The QOL is much better given my relatively high seniority on RSV.

On the other hand, the only lines I could hold are those horrible ones at the bottom with 300+ hours away from base, early shows, late finishes...you know what I'm talking about.

No thanks. I'll sit pretty here on Reserve until the cows come home....fly when I want and take "days off" when I want! I won't bid for a line until my seniority lets me hold one of those precious 3 day lines near the top of the bid packet...

Or until Eagle begins to furlough everybody below me..ouch!

Just do not forget you have a probi ride at 9months, it will be easier with 700 hours in the plane, as opposed to 200. Also remember your here to get jet time, esp. if we shrink in the future and get f'd.

lakehouse 09-16-2011 12:31 PM

Deleted to try and stop an internet fight.

lakehouse 09-16-2011 12:35 PM

same as last post.

lakehouse 09-16-2011 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1055208)
Agh yes, another one of the new breed of pilots hopeful to be a pawn in the further erosion of the industry.

What you and your parasitic brethren fail to realize is that if the majors go that way outsourcing further and paying you even fewer peanuts to fly larger metal, that will be YOUR career stop. You may be young, hungry and free-wheeling now, but in 15 years with a wife, kids, a mortgage, saving for retirement on your peanut dispensment level will be difficult, if not impossible.

Of course then. You'll be complaining about the very situation you willingly and eagerly cultivated 15 years prior.

If your present hopes actually come to fruition, you'll be the most screwed of all, you just don't know it yet.


I really really think you mis read my post.

BrewMaster 09-16-2011 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1055264)
No, it hasn't.

First, there's no logical way for you to know what I "preached", 10 or 20 years ago. You're confusing irrational assumption on your part with practical reality.

The practical reality is, why would I subscribe to the parasitic desire of the new wave of pilots to seize any and all flying from major carriers if I had a seniority number at one and planned to fly there one day ?

Acknowledging the realities of competitive
scope is not the same as openly advocating the theft of work from other carriers, be they majors or regionals and confusing the two only leads me to believe that you too are among the "new breed".

I'm sorry, but are you angry because the pretty road you imagined in your head isn't coming true?

Get used to it. This is the way it is. People are flying because they want to and are getting hired. The current state of affairs will not change so you can have your heavy metal job. Nobody is doing anything anyone else wouldn't do if they were in the new guy's shoes...including yourself.

This is not the new wave's fault. You're out of your mind if you think the new guys should just step down and stop wanting to fly because it will hinder your career advancement.

yesyou 09-16-2011 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by heading180 (Post 778741)
Can someone elaborate on the life at Eagle? How is reserve? #of days off on reserve, short-call long-call etc... Any contractual days off required? Ex: OH guarantees 4 in a row 3 in a row per bid period.

Looking at the original posters question, I was wondering if time on reserve has changed with all the hiring?


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