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09-16-2011 | 09:34 AM
#3641
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No argument there. I knew many of the same senior captains. They were a minority whereas, now most of the new breed gets upset when they're not 27 year old captains flying 100-seat jet airliners.
That didn't exist 10-20 years ago, but it's practically standard new-guy philosophy now. In fact, the ravenous hunger of poaching other regionals is rampant as well. The irony at Eagle will soon be the horrific whining when alas, Eagle becomes the next poachee and the new breed cries to the gods screaming, "why me, why me".
That didn't exist 10-20 years ago, but it's practically standard new-guy philosophy now. In fact, the ravenous hunger of poaching other regionals is rampant as well. The irony at Eagle will soon be the horrific whining when alas, Eagle becomes the next poachee and the new breed cries to the gods screaming, "why me, why me".
As far was eager to poach other flying, what???? Who do you hang out with that wants that?
And 20 years ago, the upgrade was what at the "eagles"? 10 months? What's there to complain about. I fail to see your arguments.
09-16-2011 | 10:17 AM
#3642
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Where do you get "most" from? Lol, me and no one I know are crying because we aren't 50 seat captains, in fact "just about all" are very content with where we are.
As far was eager to poach other flying, what???? Who do you hang out with that wants that?
And 20 years ago, the upgrade was what at the "eagles"? 10 months? What's there to complain about. I fail to see your arguments.
As far was eager to poach other flying, what???? Who do you hang out with that wants that?
And 20 years ago, the upgrade was what at the "eagles"? 10 months? What's there to complain about. I fail to see your arguments.
The upgrade at my Eagle in 1991 was 5 years and new-hires needed 2000TT/500 multi.
My advice is to laugh while you can.
09-16-2011 | 10:38 AM
#3643
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As a potential new hire at Eagle, I've been wondering about the 720 number as well. That would be terrific news for a new hire today, as you'd reach roughly 50% seniority on the FO side in only a year. However, AA is only looking at 5 mandatory retirements in 2012, notwithstanding all the early retirements. What am I missing that would warrant 720 new hires next year?
AA lost 100+ captains last month. Even only 5 guys have to go next year, people is retiring before that.
I moved 200 numbers up in a year, and they have hired like 350 to 400 in this year. I'm still on reserve...
figure it out.
09-16-2011 | 12:23 PM
#3645
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From: forever fo
Well...I'm an ERJ FO and it has officially been 9 days since I last flew. On any given day I have anywhere from 9 to 14 guys below me on reserve. I keep bidding RAP 2 or 1 and never get a call.
I'm getting so spoiled that I am actually going to bid for a RSV schedule next month again even though I can hold a line. The QOL is much better given my relatively high seniority on RSV.
On the other hand, the only lines I could hold are those horrible ones at the bottom with 300+ hours away from base, early shows, late finishes...you know what I'm talking about.
No thanks. I'll sit pretty here on Reserve until the cows come home....fly when I want and take "days off" when I want! I won't bid for a line until my seniority lets me hold one of those precious 3 day lines near the top of the bid packet...
Or until Eagle begins to furlough everybody below me..ouch!
I'm getting so spoiled that I am actually going to bid for a RSV schedule next month again even though I can hold a line. The QOL is much better given my relatively high seniority on RSV.
On the other hand, the only lines I could hold are those horrible ones at the bottom with 300+ hours away from base, early shows, late finishes...you know what I'm talking about.
No thanks. I'll sit pretty here on Reserve until the cows come home....fly when I want and take "days off" when I want! I won't bid for a line until my seniority lets me hold one of those precious 3 day lines near the top of the bid packet...
Or until Eagle begins to furlough everybody below me..ouch!
09-16-2011 | 01:31 PM
#3648
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From: forever fo
Agh yes, another one of the new breed of pilots hopeful to be a pawn in the further erosion of the industry.
What you and your parasitic brethren fail to realize is that if the majors go that way outsourcing further and paying you even fewer peanuts to fly larger metal, that will be YOUR career stop. You may be young, hungry and free-wheeling now, but in 15 years with a wife, kids, a mortgage, saving for retirement on your peanut dispensment level will be difficult, if not impossible.
Of course then. You'll be complaining about the very situation you willingly and eagerly cultivated 15 years prior.
If your present hopes actually come to fruition, you'll be the most screwed of all, you just don't know it yet.
What you and your parasitic brethren fail to realize is that if the majors go that way outsourcing further and paying you even fewer peanuts to fly larger metal, that will be YOUR career stop. You may be young, hungry and free-wheeling now, but in 15 years with a wife, kids, a mortgage, saving for retirement on your peanut dispensment level will be difficult, if not impossible.
Of course then. You'll be complaining about the very situation you willingly and eagerly cultivated 15 years prior.
If your present hopes actually come to fruition, you'll be the most screwed of all, you just don't know it yet.
I really really think you mis read my post.
09-16-2011 | 02:07 PM
#3649
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No, it hasn't.
First, there's no logical way for you to know what I "preached", 10 or 20 years ago. You're confusing irrational assumption on your part with practical reality.
The practical reality is, why would I subscribe to the parasitic desire of the new wave of pilots to seize any and all flying from major carriers if I had a seniority number at one and planned to fly there one day ?
Acknowledging the realities of competitive
scope is not the same as openly advocating the theft of work from other carriers, be they majors or regionals and confusing the two only leads me to believe that you too are among the "new breed".
First, there's no logical way for you to know what I "preached", 10 or 20 years ago. You're confusing irrational assumption on your part with practical reality.
The practical reality is, why would I subscribe to the parasitic desire of the new wave of pilots to seize any and all flying from major carriers if I had a seniority number at one and planned to fly there one day ?
Acknowledging the realities of competitive
scope is not the same as openly advocating the theft of work from other carriers, be they majors or regionals and confusing the two only leads me to believe that you too are among the "new breed".
Get used to it. This is the way it is. People are flying because they want to and are getting hired. The current state of affairs will not change so you can have your heavy metal job. Nobody is doing anything anyone else wouldn't do if they were in the new guy's shoes...including yourself.
This is not the new wave's fault. You're out of your mind if you think the new guys should just step down and stop wanting to fly because it will hinder your career advancement.
09-16-2011 | 02:25 PM
#3650
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Looking at the original posters question, I was wondering if time on reserve has changed with all the hiring?
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