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09-16-2011 | 06:50 AM
#3631
New Hire
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As a potential new hire at Eagle, I've been wondering about the 720 number as well. That would be terrific news for a new hire today, as you'd reach roughly 50% seniority on the FO side in only a year. However, AA is only looking at 5 mandatory retirements in 2012, notwithstanding all the early retirements. What am I missing that would warrant 720 new hires next year?
09-16-2011 | 07:02 AM
#3632
Gets Weekends Off
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As a potential new hire at Eagle, I've been wondering about the 720 number as well. That would be terrific news for a new hire today, as you'd reach roughly 50% seniority on the FO side in only a year. However, AA is only looking at 5 mandatory retirements in 2012, notwithstanding all the early retirements. What am I missing that would warrant 720 new hires next year?
09-16-2011 | 07:08 AM
#3633
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Agh yes, another one of the new breed of pilots hopeful to be a pawn in the further erosion of the industry.
What you and your parasitic brethren fail to realize is that if the majors go that way outsourcing further and paying you even fewer peanuts to fly larger metal, that will be YOUR career stop. You may be young, hungry and free-wheeling now, but in 15 years with a wife, kids, a mortgage, saving for retirement on your peanut dispensment level will be difficult, if not impossible.
Of course then. You'll be complaining about the very situation you willingly and eagerly cultivated 15 years prior.
If your present hopes actually come to fruition, you'll be the most screwed of all, you just don't know it yet.
What you and your parasitic brethren fail to realize is that if the majors go that way outsourcing further and paying you even fewer peanuts to fly larger metal, that will be YOUR career stop. You may be young, hungry and free-wheeling now, but in 15 years with a wife, kids, a mortgage, saving for retirement on your peanut dispensment level will be difficult, if not impossible.
Of course then. You'll be complaining about the very situation you willingly and eagerly cultivated 15 years prior.
If your present hopes actually come to fruition, you'll be the most screwed of all, you just don't know it yet.
09-16-2011 | 07:29 AM
#3634
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2006
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Guys, is no secret that AA will be the biggest player on hiring the next few years. There are around 250 eagle pilots with AA seniority numbers that will start getting recalled (they have the option to defer and allot probably will) in the next few months. Then there is the 824, this is a done deal. The arbitrator has ruled and we are waiting for the specifics, but as of right now they will take 50% of classes at AA. It is in AMR best interet to move them as fast as possible. Then there is the 35% but we know that is a bit suspicious but the above mentioned is happening (well we know how things are in the biz). Eagle will see allot of movement in the next few months, this is why we are hiring so much. We haven't seen a vacancy bid in over 2 months because the compant is waiting on the final details, and the AA retirements are making things a bit more interesting.
09-16-2011 | 07:43 AM
#3635
Underpaid...
Joined: Nov 2010
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From: French-Canadian
And I guess you werent aware that we are still awaiting the ruling of seat locks for the 824, there has been a few e-mail in regards to this. Also look at the flow plan and see how we are still backed up in upgrades. Could this explain things a bit better. Two months ago there were over 70 captain vacancies, it takes times for them to get these guys typed, just be patient your capatin vacancies will come soon. We are having problems with IOE since an ERJ FO can complete ground school and SIM for the ERJ in about 3 weeks. Moving FOs around is easy with the vacancies, upgrades is a whole different animal, but that's just what I see!!
09-16-2011 | 08:40 AM
#3636
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First, there's no logical way for you to know what I "preached", 10 or 20 years ago. You're confusing irrational assumption on your part with practical reality.
The practical reality is, why would I subscribe to the parasitic desire of the new wave of pilots to seize any and all flying from major carriers if I had a seniority number at one and planned to fly there one day ?
Acknowledging the realities of competitive
scope is not the same as openly advocating the theft of work from other carriers, be they majors or regionals and confusing the two only leads me to believe that you too are among the "new breed".
09-16-2011 | 08:50 AM
#3637
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From: E145 FO
Sorry to take this off topic, but what do you guys use to organize your Jepps in the ERJ cockpit? In the CRJ I could clip an entire jep binder to the chart holder. Not so fortunate this time around. It seems, at least to me, that the chart holders are not very stable and can hardly hold a few pieces of paper.
09-16-2011 | 09:01 AM
#3638
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No, it hasn't.
First, there's no logical way for you to know what I "preached", 10 or 20 years ago. You're confusing irrational assumption on your part with practical reality.
The practical reality is, why would I subscribe to the parasitic desire of the new wave of pilots to seize any and all flying from major carriers if I had a seniority number at one and planned to fly there one day ?
Acknowledging the realities of competitive
scope is not the same as openly advocating the theft of work from other carriers, be they majors or regionals and confusing the two only leads me to believe that you too are among the "new breed".
First, there's no logical way for you to know what I "preached", 10 or 20 years ago. You're confusing irrational assumption on your part with practical reality.
The practical reality is, why would I subscribe to the parasitic desire of the new wave of pilots to seize any and all flying from major carriers if I had a seniority number at one and planned to fly there one day ?
Acknowledging the realities of competitive
scope is not the same as openly advocating the theft of work from other carriers, be they majors or regionals and confusing the two only leads me to believe that you too are among the "new breed".
09-16-2011 | 09:10 AM
#3639
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Sorry to take this off topic, but what do you guys use to organize your Jepps in the ERJ cockpit? In the CRJ I could clip an entire jep binder to the chart holder. Not so fortunate this time around. It seems, at least to me, that the chart holders are not very stable and can hardly hold a few pieces of paper.
Use this: CrewAid
09-16-2011 | 09:12 AM
#3640
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You make me laugh so hard with the new breed stuff, I've had quite a few 18+ yr CAs here that tells me that they wish AA would strike so he can go fly the triple there, or bring them to eagle. I can name names if you want so you can ask them about those statements. "new breed" lol, your entitled generation wants to label us as that to cover up your own selfish entitled attitudes that is 10 times greater than our generation.
That didn't exist 10-20 years ago, but it's practically standard new-guy philosophy now. In fact, the ravenous hunger of poaching other regionals is rampant as well. The irony at Eagle will soon be the horrific whining when alas, Eagle becomes the next poachee and the new breed cries to the gods screaming, "why me, why me".
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