1)yes, you are absolutely correct. :rolleyes: is that the best line you can come up with? I started out on the props, would still be on it by choice if they did not decide to park the saabs. I displaced to the jet because I wanted to live in NEW YORK not because i have the "SJS" disease!

2) "everybody" really? I visit my family once a month back in LA, my other half meets me on my overnights on her days off. I live in a modest/simple apt that we own in brooklyn, life is GOOD! I'm enjoying my life.

you love the industry but you hate the business, that's like saying my child is very smart, but he's failing math and english !

because you had a bad experience with this type of flying, it doesn't mean everyone is doomed or bitter

enjoy

The list of LOA are nothing close to what they offered.

If I'm reading it right, it looks like 60 guys took the LOA

I love how its mostly things other than offered, with a bunch of FOs. How was an FO even suppose to know that submitting it would mean they would get it. I would never have even tried based on what they told us the options were.

You really aren't very bright. Have you ever flown corporate? Because if you haven't, you do not have a clue what the differences are and which one is better do you? I have done both and prefer corporate over the airlines. There are others who have done both and prefer the airlines over corporate. But until you have done and experienced both sides of the fence shut your mouth and stop talking about things you don't have a clue about.

Yet I never go on the corporate forum and troll.

What a very thoughtful and intellectual response. Do you also give your doctor medical advise? I'm sure you could give an NFL quarterback tips on how to complete a pass too?

That's his forte. ;)

Oh I know.

The APA's scope clause now allows American Eagle to fly 47 Bombardier CRJ700s. (Photo: Bombardier)
February 6, 2012, 12:46 PM
AMR management has proposed loosening the scope clause language in its Allied Pilots Association (APA) contract as part of its plan to return to profitability following its eventual exit from bankruptcy. Language in the so-called term sheet issued to the American Airline pilots, 400 of whom face furlough as part of the plan, calls for a change in the definition of a “commuter carrier” to allow American Eagle and other regional affiliates to fly either jet or turboprop aircraft with a passenger capacity of 88 seats and an mtow as high as 114,500 pounds. Perhaps more significantly, the new clause would allow regional affiliates to fly as many as 255 jets with a passenger capacity of between 51 and 88 seats—or up to 50 percent of the total number of mainline aircraft. The maximum number of jets holding 50 seats or less allowed during any six-month period would equate to the number of narrowbody aircraft at American Airlines multiplied by 110 percent.

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Under the current scope clause, American’s APA contract defines a commuter carrier as one operating aircraft with a maximum passenger capacity of 50 seats and a maximum takeoff weight of no more than 64,500 pounds. Exceptions include the 47 seventy-seat Bombardier CRJ700s Eagle now operates and 42 ATR 72 turboprops it plans to ground. As in the new proposal, the current contract allows the number of 50-seat jets at the regionals to rise only as high as 110 percent of the number of narrowbody aircraft flown at the mainline.*

Meanwhile, limits on certain nonstop flying by regionals differs depending on whether AMR owns a majority of the airline of not. For example, 85 percent of departures by jet aircraft at regionals majority owned by AMR or an affiliate must operate out of nine American hubs or so-called focus cities, while other non-owned regionals cannot fly for American anywhere but into or out of those cities.

The proposed scope clause would completely eliminate the distinction between owned and non-owned regionals.

The new clause would also allow American to place its code on any route on which a carrier that operates both aircraft holding 88 or fewer seats and aircraft carrying 89 or more seats uses the smaller aircraft under the commuter air carrier section of the APA contract. Finally, it would modify the methodology of counting so-called commuter aircraft to reflect only those providing code share with American Airlines and change the definition of hubs and major airports to encompass only “cornerstone” cities (DFW, ORD, MIA, JFK and LAX). The current contract defines nine cities as “hub” or “major.”



So you guys are getting 175s or does it sound like more outsourcing???