bailee atr

Im just happy the whole letter 3 nightmare is over. Untill the next grievance is filed!!!!

Beagle Pilot

Woo-Hoo! Agreed! While it's possible another minor L3 grievance can be filed, I think Nicolau was pretty clear about the resolution to this matter. Any questions we have will be clarified, but my understanding is all the parties thoroughly understood what the arbitration means. This isn't a contract negotiation or a mutual agreement, it's an arbitration resolution. There is no debate. There is no decision to be made about whether to accept it, ratify it or otherwise decide if it is a good enough document to agree upon. It's a decree. All parties have to accept it. That's what binding arbitration means. It's only idiots like USAPA who don't understand that concept.

Flyby1206

I agree, but dont you think there will be some gray areas in the ruling regarding the implementation procedures?

Beagle Pilot

Not many because most questions are asked off the bat. Like our contract, there's a ton of background information shared between all the parties clarifying what all the points mean which is not explicitly spelled out in the final document. Unlike our contract, this isn't a negotiated agreement; it's an arbitrated judgment. No party will be able to later say "That's not what I meant when I agreed to it".

I'm certain all questions by members will be answered quickly and within a few weeks because our union reps already knows 99.999% of them.

andy171773

This sounds like a phenomenal deal for the flow through guys, considering what could've transpired. Does this mean Eagle is going to open the flood gates and hire a ton more?

Beagle Pilot

Unfortunately not. Despite the panic attack presently taking place over at the APA Puzzle Palace there won't be massive hoards of lowly regional pilots slipping into the cockpits of the World's Greatest Pilots any time soon. After the 35 pilots go in June, the rest of the first 244 have to wait for AA to begin recalling pilots. That will probably be at least anther year. After the 244, the remainder have to wait until all AA and former TWA pilots have been offered recall. This will probably take about five years given it would follow the consequences a new AA-APA contract.

In short, don't count on any hiring at Eagle except to account for the new CRJ's and attrition as the economy improves.

mwa1

basically recall in seniority order that was the original ae position.

SkyHighHobo

Sorry- Ex TWA, never APA. Only user name I have/ever had ALPA SAFETY was already taken!!

Tell me more about that deserving stuff!

Me thinks the furloughed AA guys deserved to keep the left seat in the rj's.

Beagle Pilot

Obviously you're just trolling and wouldn't want to understand although I'm sure you are capable of it. Have a nice life, Hobo. Hopefully you'll find something more rewarding than trolling in things which don't affect you and never have.

lsl80

Some things for the 244 flows to consider. You will not be able to choose your equipment and base. Most of the 28 Feb furloughed pilots were S80 f/os in STL, so that might require the first 35 pilots. You will profer based on what AA shows available. The chance of DFW and ORD is zero. Most likely LGA, MIA and STL. There is a possiblilty of the 767, S80 in LGA, 767 and 737 in MIA and the S80 in STL. In STL all non TWA pilots bid behind the TWA pilots for a monthly schedule. You will be on reserve in STL for a long time. Reserve guarantee is 73 hrs. Some pilots are flown over guar, but nothing over 85 hrs is allowed. You have little control of how much you fly because AA tries to keep all reserve pilots equal in time. STL has only limited nonstops, making a fun 2 leg commute for many.

I am happy nobody is forced into doing something they don't want to. Now can you AE pilots do what is right and allow any flowbacks still at AE, to fly Captain?