ToiletDuck

I was a CFI and corp pilot. I would never get upset over something like this (I know who's decision it is). What happens happens and I won't be surprised at all if they do.

likeitis

+1 Spot on.

crazy pills

Too late, the industry is already screwed because it was given up. You stated earlier that you are at such a great carrier with rigs and good pay but that means nothing because your scope language is worse than RAH's. RAH pilots are in the process of getting their pay and QOL upgraded in a new contract, so how is it that they don't get the chance to fix a sub par contract but you are justified by saying "don't worry we are in the process of taking it back" referring to your sh$t scope. RAH was a stepping stone like every other regional when their last contract was made and it does suck but so does yours wherever you work because you have allowed your company to farm out so much of your flying so you could make an extra couple of bucks. There would be no RAH if it wasn't for mainline pukes like you who gave up scope for a couple of extra bucks and now you realize your mistake but you blame it on young regional pilots who have no place else to go.
Your greed is the problem, so good luck taking back your scope, I hope for all of us that you succeed, but you sound pretty stupid so I'm not holding my breath.

HawkerJet

Are you asking about Lynx?

Early April approx 40, mid April approx 40, early May small # with 40ish remaining. This is off the top of my head give or take a few ya know.

Good news is Lynx pilots are still picking up work outside of this mess.

SUX4U

Crazy Pills thank you kindly for saving me the 5 minutes out of my day by writing that one up. Could not have said it better myself!

PSACFI

While your statement is correct it only covers half the problem. A lot of scope was taken away from major pilots during chapter 11.

Regional pilots have a ton of blood on their hands as well. There is this funny theory called market economics that drives the value of all commodities including labor. You chose to value your labor at such a low wages and thus make it more tempting to airline management. If you and other regional pilots had said no, then the wages would have come up until sufficient pilots were found who would work at decent wages. Or better yet it would have been uneconomical to farm it out and it would have stayed at mainline.

Your desire to use RAH as a "stepping stone" and not care what you get paid is a big part of the problem.

Some pilots were indifferent, some were greedy, and some were ignorant. It doesn't change the fact that everyone had a hand in making it what it is today.

FAULTPUSH

Truer words were never spoken.

enuff

Well we may have been stupid in giving up that flying but look who is doing it for alot less, with an absolute garbage contract....... now who is the stupid one? You guys gave your own store away to fly that big shiny jet. Your contract did not even have industry standard RJ rates which were already the norm. By the way you can say you are negotiating a great contract....blah blah blah. Until the ink is dry on it you are still the joke of the industry. I'm not surprised you don't pay Bedford for the priveledge to fly your big jets.

thepotato232

Actually enuff, you'll find that the RAH RJ rates were well within "Industry Standard" when they were negotiated. Sadly enough, they still are just about "Standard". Look around at the RJ payscales for 50-seaters and 76-seaters - you'll find that RAH's rates are (distressingly) well within the normal range. Among the many failures of the current contract were that it didn't differentiate between types - only on number of seats, and the pay scale topped out with an "## and up". The idea that RAH got where they are because their pilots underbid everyone else to get the company moving is fiction. Republic still operates on a crappy-but-middle-of-the-road regional contract. They got where they are because mainline kept throwing money at a management team with megalomanical tendencies because it saved them cash in the short term.

Each side in this discussion can throw the "Gave Away Your Store for Shiny Jets" argument - I still remember that bull**** from over at UAL when management flat-out to the pilot group that they could bring the RJs on property, but that would mean fewer big, shiny 777s. We all know how that turned out. Everybody's living in a glass house.

MD80

+1 ..... Have to agree with you.

Republic EXCO worked with BB to "lock-out" the pilots getting industry average wages/work rules/benefits to replace them with industry low wages/work rules/benefits.

Remove the corruption. Vote FAPA.