ASA Announcement?
05-23-2010 | 04:28 PM
#41
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What you guys are hearing has some truth. You are going to get An additional 100 aircraft this year. Mostly from Comair when delta shuts them down. One of the biggest reason for Comair going away is because of the lawsuite from the 50 seater crash. From what I have been told you are going to grow big. The future is looking good for you guys. Your job is secured. Congrats...
I just spit my milk through my nose. Someone thinks an aviation job is "secure."
05-23-2010 | 05:24 PM
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If you care to check the record, Delta was released from the liability in the 5191 accident nearly three years ago. Furthermore, Comair carried ample insurance sufficient to pay all claims and expenses.
So will more Comair assets get sold off? Quite possibly as Delta seeks cut deals with the F4D carriers without spending a lot of cash, but it will have nothing to do with the 5191 accident or any other safety issue.
05-23-2010 | 06:33 PM
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And what's Delta going to do when the mainline has another accident and gets sued? Sell it too?
If you care to check the record, Delta was released from the liability in the 5191 accident nearly three years ago. Furthermore, Comair carried ample insurance sufficient to pay all claims and expenses.
So will more Comair assets get sold off? Quite possibly as Delta seeks cut deals with the F4D carriers without spending a lot of cash, but it will have nothing to do with the 5191 accident or any other safety issue.
If you care to check the record, Delta was released from the liability in the 5191 accident nearly three years ago. Furthermore, Comair carried ample insurance sufficient to pay all claims and expenses.
So will more Comair assets get sold off? Quite possibly as Delta seeks cut deals with the F4D carriers without spending a lot of cash, but it will have nothing to do with the 5191 accident or any other safety issue.
05-23-2010 | 08:42 PM
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1) What about the three-party fleet guarantee that Delta signed with Comair and ALPA? Delta can't give ASA (sorry, Atlantic Southeast)Comair's fleet any more than they can give them Northwest's fleet.
2) Why would ASA want to get 70 50-seaters from Comair? So Delta can furlough Comair pilots now, and furlough ASA pilots next year when they come off lease?
Any explanations for these speedbumps, Trailblazer?
05-23-2010 | 08:50 PM
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If you were going to rebrand an airline and start flying to all 50 states, why would you rename it Atlantic Southeast?
Wouldn't MidAtlantic-SkyWest-East-North-AlaskAloha be more appropriate?
Freedom, Trans States, GoJetsssssss and Republic are all better names for a nation-wide airline than Atlantic Southeast.
I guess that's why airlines spend millions of dollars on these rebranding boondoggles?
Wouldn't MidAtlantic-SkyWest-East-North-AlaskAloha be more appropriate?
Freedom, Trans States, GoJetsssssss and Republic are all better names for a nation-wide airline than Atlantic Southeast.
I guess that's why airlines spend millions of dollars on these rebranding boondoggles?
05-23-2010 | 08:58 PM
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If you were going to rebrand an airline and start flying to all 50 states, why would you rename it Atlantic Southeast?
Wouldn't MidAtlantic-SkyWest-East-North-AlaskAloha be more appropriate?
Freedom, Trans States, GoJetsssssss and Republic are all better names for a nation-wide airline than Atlantic Southeast.
I guess that's why airlines spend millions of dollars on these rebranding boondoggles?
Wouldn't MidAtlantic-SkyWest-East-North-AlaskAloha be more appropriate?
Freedom, Trans States, GoJetsssssss and Republic are all better names for a nation-wide airline than Atlantic Southeast.
I guess that's why airlines spend millions of dollars on these rebranding boondoggles?
05-23-2010 | 09:31 PM
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That is true. And the name is from the 20s, long before they flew to Europe and Asia.
And when Northwest had a chance to rebrand, they went with the name Delta.
And when Republic rebranded MidWest, they went with Frontier.
And when Atlantic Coast Airlines rebranded they went with Independence Air.
And when Wings West merged into Simmons, they went with American Eagle.
And when America West rebranded, they went with USAirways.
So why would Atlantic Southeast rebrand themselves as Atlantic Southeast if they want to be the new 50-state super regional?
Seems like a missed opportunity to me.
Or maybe Trailblazer is just smoking crack again...
And when Northwest had a chance to rebrand, they went with the name Delta.
And when Republic rebranded MidWest, they went with Frontier.
And when Atlantic Coast Airlines rebranded they went with Independence Air.
And when Wings West merged into Simmons, they went with American Eagle.
And when America West rebranded, they went with USAirways.
So why would Atlantic Southeast rebrand themselves as Atlantic Southeast if they want to be the new 50-state super regional?
Seems like a missed opportunity to me.
Or maybe Trailblazer is just smoking crack again...
05-23-2010 | 09:36 PM
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I wouldn't say that NWA rebranded, they were bought and merged.
But they did in the 60s to NWA Orient and then dropped in the 90s... So they rebranded twice and kept the Northwest name.
But they did in the 60s to NWA Orient and then dropped in the 90s... So they rebranded twice and kept the Northwest name.
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05-23-2010 | 10:09 PM
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Fair enough, but you're missing my point.
If Trailblazer is right and SkyWest is reinventing ASA to be a nation-wide "super-regional", why would they keep the name that ties them to one corner of the United States?
Many Airlines start with a homey name so the locals buying tickets think they're supporting the guy next door. When they grow into regional, national, and global airlines, the logical trend would be to dump the local name for one with a wider appeal to stand out amongst the other airlines in the phone book/travel site.
If John Q Public wants to fly from Kansas City to Dallas, here are some airlines he would not even consider because of their names:
Alaska
Hawaiian
Cape Air
Georgia Skies
Great Lakes
Grand Canyon
Air Wisconsin
Any airline that starts with "Chaut"
I'm just sayin'...
If Trailblazer is right and SkyWest is reinventing ASA to be a nation-wide "super-regional", why would they keep the name that ties them to one corner of the United States?
Many Airlines start with a homey name so the locals buying tickets think they're supporting the guy next door. When they grow into regional, national, and global airlines, the logical trend would be to dump the local name for one with a wider appeal to stand out amongst the other airlines in the phone book/travel site.
If John Q Public wants to fly from Kansas City to Dallas, here are some airlines he would not even consider because of their names:
Alaska
Hawaiian
Cape Air
Georgia Skies
Great Lakes
Grand Canyon
Air Wisconsin
Any airline that starts with "Chaut"
I'm just sayin'...
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