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Old 06-05-2010 | 05:26 AM
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TO: ALL PILOTS ¶
RE: A VACANCY BID IS OPEN EFFECTIVE 2 JUNE 2010 ¶
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*VACANCIES* *ENTER TRAINING NO LATER THAN 1 JAN 2011*
19 LGA CA CRJ
25 LGA FO CRJ
05 DFW FO EMJ
05 LAX CA EMJ
39 ORD CA EMJ
50 ORD FO EMJ
01 DFW CA ATR

Growth. 144 vacancies...

More hiring?
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Old 06-05-2010 | 05:38 AM
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Growth? Or just guys transferring to AA?
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Old 06-05-2010 | 05:42 AM
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Eagle expects to hire 20 a month well into next year..is what i've heard from several people in recruitment/hiring department.
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Old 06-05-2010 | 06:01 AM
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Makes sense. Forgot to account for the 22 CRJ's coming on board. Add that manning demand, and the guys going to AA, and there's a need for 400 +/- (?).
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Old 06-05-2010 | 06:05 AM
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Yeah, but forgot to add the part of NO Backfills positions. I see an increase total of 3 pilots.
TO: ALL PILOTS
RE: A VACANCY BID IS OPEN EFFECTIVE 2 JUNE 2010
************************************************** ************
*VACANCIES* *ENTER TRAINING NO LATER THAN*
<19 LGA CA CRJ <1 JAN 2011
<25 LGA FO CRJ <1 JAN 2011
< 5 DFW FO EMJ <1 JAN 2011
< 5 LAX CA EMJ <1 JAN 2011
<39 ORD CA EMJ <1 JAN 2011
<50 ORD FO EMJ <1 JAN 2011
< 1 DFW CA ATR <1 JAN 2011
WE WILL *NOT* BACKFILL 11 DCC, 17 DFC, 3 OCC, 7 OFC, 6 DCE,
22 JCE, 18 JFE, 29 NCE, 25 NFE, AND 3 MFA.
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Old 06-05-2010 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Makes sense. Forgot to account for the 22 CRJ's coming on board. Add that manning demand, and the guys going to AA, and there's a need for 400 +/- (?).
When I interviewed they said they will probably have to hire 400-500 pilots because of the new CRJs, the flows, and the expected rest rule changes.

That's what they told me, I have no idea if that is actually true or not.
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Old 06-05-2010 | 06:34 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but there are only 35ish Eagle pilots going to AA this month (June). When the AA Feb 28th furloughs are offered recall, then the remainder of Eagle pilots begin to flow again.
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Old 06-05-2010 | 07:48 AM
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Nah, no correction needed. You're probably right. Just more incomplete thinking on my part.

I need to check my transmission out because the 'B' doesn't seem to be engaging my mind.
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Old 06-05-2010 | 10:03 AM
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Not to poop on anyone's parade...and trust me I hope Eagle grows like crazy...I just don't think 500 is an accurate number.

What I think needs to be looked over carefully is those positions that will not be back filled. MY understanding from reading this over is that they are trying to move most of the EMB crews out of NYC. ORD would be the most likely place for them to go.

If they go and hire 500 people we will be an airline of what? Almost 3500 pilots? Probably not the best move in such a fragile economy. IF they did hire 400-500 folks we'll see a repeat of 2008. Extreme over staffing, reserves flying 5 hours a month and an eventual "extended vacation without pay" for those 400.

The 37 seaters are obsolete. The 50 seaters do still have some use. I really believe we will see the 37 seaters retiring in the next two years. SJU flying is being reduced from what I hear as well. AA is not as big a player in the Caribbean like it used to be.

I will 100% agree that we are at a critical staffing point. SJU runs out of reserves daily. LGA is going down to 1 or 2 available. ORD is running their reserves like crazy.

We need to remember that we go into negotiations in 2 years. If Eagle wants to keep flying for AMR they are going to need to look like they'll be worth it.

I believe that Eagle is AMRs best bet for regional feed. If I'm not mistaken Eagle did post a slight profit in the 1Q. We're getting a new CEO for what it's worth. We know what AA likes and we do our job well. Not only is our pilot group experienced it's experienced in flying for AMR.
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Old 06-05-2010 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182
Not to poop on anyone's parade...and trust me I hope Eagle grows like crazy...I just don't think 500 is an accurate number.

What I think needs to be looked over carefully is those positions that will not be back filled. MY understanding from reading this over is that they are trying to move most of the EMB crews out of NYC. ORD would be the most likely place for them to go.

If they go and hire 500 people we will be an airline of what? Almost 3500 pilots? Probably not the best move in such a fragile economy. IF they did hire 400-500 folks we'll see a repeat of 2008. Extreme over staffing, reserves flying 5 hours a month and an eventual "extended vacation without pay" for those 400.


The 50 seaters do still have some use. I really believe we will see the 37 seaters retiring in the next two years. SJU flying is being reduced from what I hear as well. AA is not as big a player in the Caribbean like it used to be.

I will 100% agree that we are at a critical staffing point. SJU runs out of reserves daily. LGA is going down to 1 or 2 available. ORD is running their reserves like crazy.

We need to remember that we go into negotiations in 2 years. If Eagle wants to keep flying for AMR they are going to need to look like they'll be worth it.

I believe that Eagle is AMRs best bet for regional feed. If I'm not mistaken Eagle did post a slight profit in the 1Q. We're getting a new CEO for what it's worth. We know what AA likes and we do our job well. Not only is our pilot group experienced it's experienced in flying for AMR.

didn't a bunch of new hires go to SJU so their reserve list should be plentiful. It may be a rumor but I hear a couple ATR's were moved down to SJU because SJU is growing and MIA is shrinking. Also isn't Trans states flying the 35 seat stuff hence why perhaps it may be obsolete?
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