Atlantic Southeast Rumors
06-23-2010 | 09:01 AM
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So are you saying that SkyWest Inc. has not put in an offer for them. Ok...
How would extending and expanding a very lucrative contract with Delta not be valuable? Especially since their ASA contract with DAL is up to be amended this Fall. 16 200s must have short term value since Delta just dropped Mesa's 135s and still needs the lift. Proof of this is that DAL just decided to renege on eliminating all 20 of ASA's 200s and asked ASA to put 6 of them back in service. Yes, the Saabs are leaving. Good riddance. As for the 30 900s, that would be the golden ticket, wouldn't it? Especially since 76 seaters are the way of the future, yet are scope limited. SkyWest Inc. wants as many as they can get, and the only way is to transfer them from another DCI carrier.
Seems like a no brainer to me.
Let's explore why you think all of this flying will be gone in 1 year. Do you know something the rest of us don't? Please share...
How would extending and expanding a very lucrative contract with Delta not be valuable? Especially since their ASA contract with DAL is up to be amended this Fall. 16 200s must have short term value since Delta just dropped Mesa's 135s and still needs the lift. Proof of this is that DAL just decided to renege on eliminating all 20 of ASA's 200s and asked ASA to put 6 of them back in service. Yes, the Saabs are leaving. Good riddance. As for the 30 900s, that would be the golden ticket, wouldn't it? Especially since 76 seaters are the way of the future, yet are scope limited. SkyWest Inc. wants as many as they can get, and the only way is to transfer them from another DCI carrier.
Seems like a no brainer to me.
Let's explore why you think all of this flying will be gone in 1 year. Do you know something the rest of us don't? Please share...
06-23-2010 | 09:20 AM
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So are you saying that SkyWest Inc. has not put in an offer for them. Ok...
How would extending and expanding a very lucrative contract with Delta not be valuable? Especially since their ASA contract with DAL is up to be amended this Fall. 16 200s must have short term value since Delta just dropped Mesa's 135s and still needs the lift. Proof of this is that DAL just decided to renege on eliminating all 20 of ASA's 200s and asked ASA to put 6 of them back in service. Yes, the Saabs are leaving. Good riddance. As for the 30 900s, that would be the golden ticket, wouldn't it? Especially since 76 seaters are the way of the future, yet are scope limited. SkyWest Inc. wants as many as they can get, and the only way is to transfer them from another DCI carrier.
Seems like a no brainer to me.
Let's explore why you think all of this flying will be gone in 1 year. Do you know something the rest of us don't? Please share...
How would extending and expanding a very lucrative contract with Delta not be valuable? Especially since their ASA contract with DAL is up to be amended this Fall. 16 200s must have short term value since Delta just dropped Mesa's 135s and still needs the lift. Proof of this is that DAL just decided to renege on eliminating all 20 of ASA's 200s and asked ASA to put 6 of them back in service. Yes, the Saabs are leaving. Good riddance. As for the 30 900s, that would be the golden ticket, wouldn't it? Especially since 76 seaters are the way of the future, yet are scope limited. SkyWest Inc. wants as many as they can get, and the only way is to transfer them from another DCI carrier.
Seems like a no brainer to me.
Let's explore why you think all of this flying will be gone in 1 year. Do you know something the rest of us don't? Please share...
06-23-2010 | 10:26 AM
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Why would any company want to buy a wholly owned? There is nothing that is of any value. What would they be buying? Just a contract with Delta for some flying? With Mesaba it would be flying for 16 200's which no one in their right mind would want to buy, 28 turbo props that will be gone soon and then 30 something 900's. I doubt anyone would be willing to buy this operation. Delta will be asking a price that encompasses a bunch of flying that will soon be gone, why would anyone buy a contract for flying that will be gone in a year?
06-23-2010 | 11:51 AM
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I'm not prophesying anything. I'm merely identifying a progressive trend that has developed since the close of 2008. When the source is coming from SH, it clearly is not by divine inspiration.
06-23-2010 | 12:38 PM
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It appears as if industry is going to see something similar to regulation from the government. Someday there will only be a few legacy carriers, low cost air carriers, and a few regional/contract airlines when the dust settles from this economic transformation.
06-23-2010 | 12:44 PM
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06-23-2010 | 02:15 PM
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This is THE most interesting point brought up to date, a lot of former Atlantic Southeast guys are there with the last round of furloughs being offered preferential interviews/hires over there. With them being all 70's that would fit into the DL plan of no more 50's. They fly UX so that would be a no-brainer to plug us into those planes and operate the same system. Also it would be nice to see an airline created in turmoil get turned on it's head and possibly give some TSA guys their just dues.....IMHO
06-23-2010 | 02:33 PM
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There have been lots of rumors flying around. Some are pretty hard to believe. I have heard of Skywest, Inc. buying a Delta wholly owned (insert Compass, Comair and/or Mesaba) and merging it with ASA or Delta liquidating said wholly-owned and selling the parts to Skywest, Inc., which flying would then come to ASA. There's always the rumor of picking up the pieces when Mesa dies (assuming it ever does). There's also the rumor of picking up some USAirways flying, not to mention expanding our United flying.
Realistically, since ASA is acquiring four new -700s from Horizon it makes sense that the company may acquire more of them in the next year and a half. That's hardly a stretch. Also, BH alluded to possibly getting more United flying by the end of the year. That's hardly committal, and I have no idea where that flying would come from.
I did talk to someone from the training department (always a good source of rumors, and sometimes they even turn out to be true) the other day who had asked why ASA is hiring five more line check pilots and he was told "for future growth." He was of the opinion that the company has plenty of line check pilots now to train the returning furloughs, so he speculates that this is an indication of more to come.
I guess we'll see. Rumors are at least fun for entertainment purposes. My favorite was that ASA would fly its 6 extra -200s (now spoken for) for AirTran out of Orlando but be painted in SkyWest colors, so it would be Atlantic Southeast Airlines dba SkyWest Airlines for AirTran. And yes, I made that one up myself.
Realistically, since ASA is acquiring four new -700s from Horizon it makes sense that the company may acquire more of them in the next year and a half. That's hardly a stretch. Also, BH alluded to possibly getting more United flying by the end of the year. That's hardly committal, and I have no idea where that flying would come from.
I did talk to someone from the training department (always a good source of rumors, and sometimes they even turn out to be true) the other day who had asked why ASA is hiring five more line check pilots and he was told "for future growth." He was of the opinion that the company has plenty of line check pilots now to train the returning furloughs, so he speculates that this is an indication of more to come.
I guess we'll see. Rumors are at least fun for entertainment purposes. My favorite was that ASA would fly its 6 extra -200s (now spoken for) for AirTran out of Orlando but be painted in SkyWest colors, so it would be Atlantic Southeast Airlines dba SkyWest Airlines for AirTran. And yes, I made that one up myself.
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