F9/rah Sli?
07-30-2010 | 12:06 PM
#21
Line Holder
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The Master Seniority List will be probably be completed by the arbitrator in the Fall.
The list will not actually be effective until 1)The NMB decides that RAH/F9 constitute a Single Transportation System and 2)A Representation Election is held, and 3)a new CBA is ratified.
The list will not actually be effective until 1)The NMB decides that RAH/F9 constitute a Single Transportation System and 2)A Representation Election is held, and 3)a new CBA is ratified.
This is going to be a real mess. The thing that holds everything up is negotiating a joint cba. You'll have F9 who will be in no hurry to get it done mixed with management who has zero desire to ever have a new labor contract. Can't wait to see the fun begin when the C series comes on property. You'll have two pilot groups who both have a contract making it mandatory those planes go to them. Can't wait...
07-30-2010 | 01:33 PM
#22
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I'm not reading too much into that. Basically Republic said they wanted so many pilots. Well, if you knew you were losing your job in a few months wouldn't you find another one?
Well they had so many take voluntary furloughs and so many quit they don't have enough pilots anymore. So they asked for volunteers to come back and only a handful did, those that hadn't found a job yet.
So now they are making threats of desperation. I still ask, who is going to come back just to fly another month?
Granted it seemed a lot of captains took the voluntary so they could get unemployment at captain pay, only a handful are back flying I think. Most are doing other stuff. Some went to Shuttle America, some Colgan, Eagle, Compass, Allegiant, Airtran, and some back to corporate.
Well they had so many take voluntary furloughs and so many quit they don't have enough pilots anymore. So they asked for volunteers to come back and only a handful did, those that hadn't found a job yet.
So now they are making threats of desperation. I still ask, who is going to come back just to fly another month?
Granted it seemed a lot of captains took the voluntary so they could get unemployment at captain pay, only a handful are back flying I think. Most are doing other stuff. Some went to Shuttle America, some Colgan, Eagle, Compass, Allegiant, Airtran, and some back to corporate.
07-30-2010 | 07:58 PM
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08-01-2010 | 04:56 AM
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Real union? Yeah sure "Tim is ALPA". You need to use your imagination a little with respect to our merger. Bringing together different groups which were independently at different "levels" combined with some groups bringing pilots but no planes is a little complicated. What's right and fair is very subjective. I wonder how well the dal/nw merger would have gone if the nw pilots were joining the dal list without bringing any jets with them?
08-01-2010 | 05:54 AM
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From: pilot
You say we (YX), bring only pilots and no planes. You are correct. Get real. Your company came in and sold our airplanes and replaced us with you. You took our gates, our front line employes, our mechanics and our hangars all while locking out our pilots and F/A's. To say we brought nothing speaks volumes of your level of maturity. We are locked out with your blessing. Too bad we have to force our way back into our positions through the legal system. I only hope we can inflict as much pain on your pilot group that you have on ours. Like they say, paybacks are hell.
08-01-2010 | 07:43 AM
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From: Captain CR7/CR9
Why does EVERYTHING come back to major/legacy vs regional? That is not relevant here.
Last edited by johnso29; 08-01-2010 at 09:32 AM. Reason: fixed quote
08-01-2010 | 08:06 AM
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
Looks like you are setting a great example of maturity for the guys at RAH. A mature person would realize the comments you read here are the comments of one person from a pilot group of 3000 pilots. Just as I know your comments are in the same category. Your attitude and lack of professionalism has not been present with ANY of the Midwest pilots I have met. You Sir give the Midwest pilots a bad reputation, just like the moron's from RAH that get on here and mouth off about what Midwest did or didn't bring to the deal. The majority of the pilots from Midwest and RAH know management is the real enemy. The unions are just dealing with the situation imposed by management.
08-01-2010 | 09:54 AM
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Those planes were scheduled to be returned to Boeing prior to RAH showing up. They weren't owned by Midwest so they couldn't be sold. They were simply returned when their leases expired. That deal was inked a long while.
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