IFlyFL410

Anyone have any idea the answer to this question??? Also, are there any crashpads with safe public transportation to and from LAX? Thanks.

rickair7777

Public transportation is minimal in SOCAL (unless you take a cab). A bus to the airport would be about it, but if you had to sit reserve I doubt the bus would get you there 24/7.

I would get an old VW bug or a honda civic. $1000 is the going rate for any car that can pass smog, but if you bring one from out of state and don't register in Cali that might not be an issue.

GreatView

I've been doing some research, and it looks like $350+/mo minimum. I could be wrong, but I haven't found anything cheaper yet......

Are you bidding left seat for LAX?

I've been in ATL for 4 1/2 years now and trying for upgrade in LAX.

What are you hearing from the SLC guys as to whether or not they're even looking at L.A.? Seems to me that the paycut going to the CR2 and day lines initially may be a no-go for many. Just wondering what the feeling is from our bretheren out West??????

Flying Ninja

You're going to need a car in SoCal. There's simply no way to get from point A to point B conveniently. Cabs aren't cheap. You may want to look into some rent controlled communities and settle in with a few people and buy yourself a car. I know Santa Monica used to have rent control areas (I'm not sure if it's still true today). Regardless, it's a pricey city. But then again, if you're bidding for LAX as a domicile, you should already have some bank to roll with the other players.

IFlyFL410

I'm at 4 years in ATL on the 70, not SLC. I was entertaining the idea of bidding CA out there purely for the money and PIC and just commute. I know it wouldn't be fun for awhile, but SIC time is getting me no where, ya know!?!?!? I spoke with Brian Morris today and he said there would be a snapshop of the bids that are due in by Monday out sometime Wednesday or Thursday next week, and the finals will be out on Monday, the 14th. I'll throw the bid out there and see what happens. I haven't heard a whole from the SLC guys one way or the other. Generally, all I hear from anyoe is that noone wants it.

GreatView

Think of the money as non-existent. Once you upgrade out there, you'll spend all of the extra money (and then some) on the commute (crashpad, car, food, ect). If you are going to do it, then do it solely for the PIC and get ready for problems commuting in-and-out of LAX (mainline flights always full with tons of non-revs). Since they will initially be day lines, we'll all need a crashpad. Those who get the bid need to get together and come up with a plan on a crashpad and transportation.

I was talking with Mary Jane and Linda over at the CP office to get a feel for how many people were faxing in the bid pref form. Consensus so far seems to be a mix. Some current capt's and some F/O's, but no flood of changes.

I guess the real question will be from the guys/gals in SLC.....

Anyway, good luck and we'll see in a week or so.....

stickwiggler

fellow asa guys.... a point to the contrary;
upgrading (depending on your years in service) can be a 2,500 month raise, I think you can commute and crash pad for less then that, so to say the money is a wash is an exageration to say the least.

The idea that the SLC guys won't bid it because it is going from the 70 to the 50 is pretty much true, but don't forget, SLC is very senior on the FO side as well, so for them it is a pay raise.

IMHO,
St

GreatView

There isn't a single person that I've talked to who has upgraded in the last 2 years that has said they're making $2,500/mo more. I think that may be the exception, but not the rule. Most of us senior F/O' flying 90+ hours and 10 or more credits per month WON'T get anywhere near a $2,500/mo increase when you consider that we may only make guarantee for a several months.

If you are not used to spending all the extra money on food and an additional crashpad in LA, it will more than likely be a wash. That is the way you have to expect it to be, otherwise some may be very disappointed. If you think that way and come out ahead a couple hundred extra every month or so, then that will be a bonus.......I tend to think on the conservative side so that my expectations won't be shattered.

IFlyFL410

I'm with you. Unless you're a RES FO or something and then go to 80+hrs as a CA, you're not going to see $2,500 more a month. I'm a 4th year 70 FO bringing in 95+ credits a month. So, the only benefit to me would be the PIC and just to get the heck out of the right seat. If I ever have to fill out another load manifest form it'll be too soon. Wait, I have to go back to work tomorrow....oh well. Even still, I may come out a few hundred ahead each month when it's said and done with.

stickwiggler

Like I said guys, depends on were you are on the list. I was looking at the difference between 43/hr and 68/hr that's 25 bucks
25x 85hrs= 2,125
but I think you did your math from 100 hrs to resv or crappy line. kinda apples and oranges
You are right to conservative on the money guessing, it all depends on what seniority you would have when you get there. We'll see.

bonne' chance

PS
Once the awards come out, one of us should start a string (on alpa site) and maybe make their own crash pad. I use to live there but I lived in Brentwood and Encino, so I'm not much help. Ijaz lives in LA, maybe he would be a good source of info