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07-28-2010 | 10:56 AM

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JetJock16

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Originally Posted by Slaphappy

doubt it, the last vote only got 35% yes votes. Nobody here wants alpa, and skywest isn't going to waste their time with xjt again. The only way I see it happeneing is XJT going chpt 11. getting their pilot contract thrown out. I bet this will be the case, xjt is on the verge anyway. I bet they convince the right people that chpt 11 is the best way to fix xjt.

Actually, under the new rules which are the same rules that EVERY other vote in the US uses (from the Presidential Election down to our SKW pay packages), ALPA would have passed with a 99% yes vote during the last election.

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[edit: remove flamebait] Nobody was afraid of voting for alpa. Those newhires all came from alpa airlines and didn't want to deal the corruption from that horrible organization.

Negative........ The majority did and the rest were from elsewhere. With our erosion of benefits accompanied by the company’s continual violation of our policies (since the last vote) I'm more than positive that we will receive another 99% yes vote from the majority.

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Most of those who voted for alpa have since left skywest so I expect a vote to be even less than the ones before. We havn't lost any benefits either.

99.9% of us are still here, for now.

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07-28-2010 | 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JetJock16

Actually, under the new rules which are the same rules that EVERY other vote in the US uses (from the Presidential Election down to our SKW pay packages), ALPA would have passed with a 99% yes vote during the last election.

I'm sort of joking here, but also asking for a clarification on what you're saying

Does SkyWest use some sort of screwup and outdated method of counting votes like the electoral college? Does one domicile that may have less pilots have votes that can outweigh a larger domicile

07-28-2010 | 12:03 PM

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Former NMB Rules stated that a union could be voted in by 51% of all eligible voters (not voting counted as a NO vote). New rules say that a union can be voted in by 51% of those who voted (not voting doesn't count).

07-28-2010 | 01:08 PM

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Whether it's the public election or the Electoral College, those who don't vote aren't counted. Now I’ve never heard of a member of the EC not voting but if they didn’t they wouldn’t be counted as a no-vote.

Under the former NMB laws, if applied to our internal votes, our last pay package would have been voted down by a margin very similar to that of the last ALPA vote (non-votes counted as no-votes).

07-28-2010 | 01:28 PM

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How many pilots are on furlough at XJT?

07-28-2010 | 02:43 PM

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I believe we have recalled 112 of our 347 furloughees. So 235 remain on furlough.

07-28-2010 | 02:45 PM

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I believe we have recalled 112 of our 347 furloughees. So 235 remain on furlough.

Considering those that have bypassed, I hear there is approximately 175 left to be called on the first round.

07-28-2010 | 02:46 PM

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Does the rule work in reverse to remove a Union?

07-28-2010 | 02:54 PM

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Considering those that have bypassed, I hear there is approximately 175 left to be called on the first round.

They sent 175 letters to get the 112 back. So 172 have not received anything.

07-28-2010 | 03:00 PM

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Does the rule work in reverse to remove a Union?

Basically. To decertify the union a petition needs to be filed with the NMB and a vote is cast. However, considering that this whole rumor is about the full integration of SKW, XJT, and ASA, I think it would be tough to get 51% out of a group that is 2/3s unionized.

ALPA is not perfect, that's for sure. But I think the majority of pilots would rather have the backing of a union than not. Otherwise I doubt SKW would be one fo the few remaining non-union shops left.