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Old 08-19-2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by C5Pilot
I am in favor of one list because it makes us more powerful in negotiating. In addition, it will be difficult to do under their new CAL CPA that last 10 years. They have to re-fleet some of the XJT jets under the agreement and the agreement is between UAL/ASA, so the new jets will have to come to new Atlantic Southeast under the CPA so ASA can get out of the terrible XJT leases on the jets, again listen to the earnings call it was all laid out. In addition, they mentioned considering buying Comair if it could be worked out with DAL for a long term CPA, they felt Comair may be a good fit.
No one here has read the new cpa so no one can say for sure who the 75 or 15 aircraft will be flown by. Unless ASA uses up negotiating capital to scope in those aircraft (assuming there is not one list), those aircraft can be flown by anyone!

And XJT does NOT pay for the leases of the aircraft on the Calex operations. Its not the leases that are killing XJT its the rate that XJT was forced to take because SKW whipsawed XJT pilots!

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Well, if the plan is/was anything like last time, JA will give the courtesy of hiring ALL the pilots that are on the street that used to fly those 274 planes. No need to buy flight time for them. Isn't that nice of him?
You mean he will give the courtesy of giving them interviews.
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Old 08-19-2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
You mean he will give the courtesy of giving them interviews.
I have a feeling you know what I meant
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Old 08-19-2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
I have a feeling you know what I meant
I know YOU know but sometimes it has to be spelled out for the sake of the rest of us.
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Old 08-20-2010 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
I know YOU know but sometimes it has to be spelled out for the sake of the rest of us.
Are you guys talking in code? Or is this just one big missunderstanding?
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Old 08-20-2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WileyTwo
Are you guys talking in code? Or is this just one big missunderstanding?
Some people are in denial that SKW whipsaws so they need it s p e l l e d o u t for them.
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Old 08-20-2010 | 08:59 AM
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There may be some of the latest arriving ERJs still flying in another 10 years, but the reality is the oldest are now getting pretty old. Our oldest E145 has just gone through its 6th heavy C-check. I have heard Embraer has not yet even written the maintenance procedure for the C-7 check. Eventually it gets too expensive to keep the old birds going. At least that's what we hear from some of our guys who do this stuff in SHV.

My guess is the main body of the new fleet will be CRJ-700s. SKW will work out some deal with Calnited to allow 70 seaters to replace XJT 50 seaters. You watch, SOMETHING will be negotiated with the new United to allow it. I am not saying they will "cave" on scope, but they will make a deal that protects mainline pilots somehow while allowing new airplanes to be delivered to SKW. Either a flow-through or a furlough-hire with seniority and pay deal for mainline pilots or something. SKW isn't going to get 70% of United's RJ contracts without a deal that everyone can live with somehow.
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Old 08-20-2010 | 09:10 AM
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There may be some of the latest arriving ERJs still flying in another 10 years, but the reality is the oldest are now getting pretty old. Our oldest E145 has just gone through its 6th heavy C-check. I have heard Embraer has not yet even written the maintenance procedure for the C-7 check. Eventually it gets too expensive to keep the old birds going. At least that's what we hear from some of our guys who do this stuff in SHV.

My guess is the main body of the new fleet will be CRJ-700s. SKW will work out some deal with Calnited to allow 70 seaters to replace XJT 50 seaters. You watch, SOMETHING will be negotiated with the new United to allow it. I am not saying they will "cave" on scope, but they will make a deal that protects mainline pilots somehow while allowing new airplanes to be delivered to SKW. Either a flow-through or a furlough-hire with seniority and pay deal for mainline pilots or something. SKW isn't going to get 70% of United's RJ contracts without a deal that everyone can live with somehow.
Probably one of the most accurate post on this whole forum.
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Old 08-20-2010 | 09:31 AM
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absolutely
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Old 08-20-2010 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainNameless
There may be some of the latest arriving ERJs still flying in another 10 years, but the reality is the oldest are now getting pretty old. Our oldest E145 has just gone through its 6th heavy C-check. I have heard Embraer has not yet even written the maintenance procedure for the C-7 check. Eventually it gets too expensive to keep the old birds going. At least that's what we hear from some of our guys who do this stuff in SHV.

My guess is the main body of the new fleet will be CRJ-700s. SKW will work out some deal with Calnited to allow 70 seaters to replace XJT 50 seaters. You watch, SOMETHING will be negotiated with the new United to allow it. I am not saying they will "cave" on scope, but they will make a deal that protects mainline pilots somehow while allowing new airplanes to be delivered to SKW. Either a flow-through or a furlough-hire with seniority and pay deal for mainline pilots or something. SKW isn't going to get 70% of United's RJ contracts without a deal that everyone can live with somehow.
Nice, I like the Calnited name.
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Old 08-20-2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainNameless
There may be some of the latest arriving ERJs still flying in another 10 years, but the reality is the oldest are now getting pretty old. Our oldest E145 has just gone through its 6th heavy C-check. I have heard Embraer has not yet even written the maintenance procedure for the C-7 check. Eventually it gets too expensive to keep the old birds going. At least that's what we hear from some of our guys who do this stuff in SHV.

My guess is the main body of the new fleet will be CRJ-700s. SKW will work out some deal with Calnited to allow 70 seaters to replace XJT 50 seaters. You watch, SOMETHING will be negotiated with the new United to allow it. I am not saying they will "cave" on scope, but they will make a deal that protects mainline pilots somehow while allowing new airplanes to be delivered to SKW. Either a flow-through or a furlough-hire with seniority and pay deal for mainline pilots or something. SKW isn't going to get 70% of United's RJ contracts without a deal that everyone can live with somehow.
They already did the deal... They loaned United 80+ mill.. I think your right on but ASA will get most if not all the new 700's. So if your a E145 pilot now get ready to fly the CRJ.. SkyWest will focus. on other stuff....
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