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Old 08-12-2010 | 05:01 PM
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Old 08-12-2010 | 05:53 PM
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And when the leases expire on those individual aircraft, they can be replaced with 70 seaters, correct? Sounds like a pretty smart move to me (for SkW, Inc).
Never said it wasn't smart. And I also don't think 50 seaters are obsolete either. Just refuting slaphappy's quote.

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That's not really fair to say, IMHO. SkyWest has bought other airlines over the years, and to my knowledge, none were "assets only". Obviously, Comair or Mesa are at least a possibility to fall in that area, however.
You mean to tell me that if JA had a choice, he would take Mesa and Comair pilots or just the assets?

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Old 08-12-2010 | 05:57 PM
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You mean to tell me that if JA had a choice, he would take Mesa and Comair pilots or just the assets?

Well, business is business. But, he won't strip the company. If offered to him (or available) already in pieces, yes, he'll take Mesa and Comair.

But, with already 4 acquisitions, none were stripped of employees.
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Old 08-12-2010 | 07:26 PM
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Well, business is business. But, he won't strip the company. If offered to him (or available) already in pieces, yes, he'll take Mesa and Comair.
Well, that was my point. If he had the choice of taking them with pilots and their contract versus just the assets, I have a hunch which he would chose.
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Old 08-13-2010 | 09:21 AM
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Well, that was my point. If he had the choice of taking them with pilots and their contract versus just the assets, I have a hunch which he would chose.
I'm not sure your hunch is necessarily right. I think if the airline is worth more put together he would try to keep it together. Like ASA or XJT. (he tried to keep it completely seperate before.) However if the planes, potential contracts from flying them, cost of training and elimination of debt are worth more than the existing certificate, contracts, infrastructure, and existing debt... then you're probably right with your hunch. If it's cheaper for him to merge them, then that's what he'd do to. Just aquiring the assets, I don't believe is ALWAYS the best option for Jerry, and as of yet, hasn't been the best option.
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Old 08-13-2010 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Well, business is business. But, he won't strip the company. If offered to him (or available) already in pieces, yes, he'll take Mesa and Comair.

But, with already 4 acquisitions, none were stripped of employees.
Why don't you ask that to the West Air guys!! check your history on that deal....
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Old 08-13-2010 | 11:52 AM
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Why don't you ask that to the West Air guys!! check your history on that deal....

Well, at the time, I was talking to "Westcom" as an ATC dude. I'm not aware that SkW acquired West Air, or their equipment or employees. Are they flying UAL contracted routes that West Air once did? Of course. So do other companies.
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Old 08-13-2010 | 12:32 PM
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I'm not sure your hunch is necessarily right. I think if the airline is worth more put together he would try to keep it together. Like ASA or XJT. (he tried to keep it completely seperate before.) However if the planes, potential contracts from flying them, cost of training and elimination of debt are worth more than the existing certificate, contracts, infrastructure, and existing debt... then you're probably right with your hunch. If it's cheaper for him to merge them, then that's what he'd do to. Just aquiring the assets, I don't believe is ALWAYS the best option for Jerry, and as of yet, hasn't been the best option.
Let me put it this way, he will do whatever he can to prevent any union for his SKW pilots. If that means only buying non-union airlines, buying them and keeping them separate, buying them and only merging them with the unionized side, or just buying the assets.
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Old 08-14-2010 | 08:41 AM
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Let me put it this way, he will do whatever he can to prevent any union for his SKW pilots. If that means only buying non-union airlines, buying them and keeping them separate, buying them and only merging them with the unionized side, or just buying the assets.
I'll definetily buy that. No arguement here.
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Old 08-14-2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Well, at the time, I was talking to "Westcom" as an ATC dude. I'm not aware that SkW acquired West Air, or their equipment or employees. Are they flying UAL contracted routes that West Air once did? Of course. So do other companies.
I believe SKW did acquire west air in some fashion, but however it went down I think the west air pilots started over at the bottom of the SKW list (they might have retained longevity, not sure).
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