I agree what you said about the stated problem but now you see this as a problem even though you were apart of it not so long ago?

 

The way you worded that suggests that mainline folks who gave their blessing to the dawn of the RJ outsourcing fiasco are somehow not part of the problem. Surely you don't think that's the case.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am currently part of the problem, as you put it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Were I to end up back out on the street because mainline reclaimed the flying they've outsourced to my Mickey Mouse operation, I'd consider it a joyous victory.

 

Those individuals have long since retired--with salaries and pensions that won't be seen by you and me, my friend.

 

for management the beauty of this scam is that it pits labor against labor. Maybe this generation will see past their trickery and actually leave the profession better than we found it.

 

So, you're saying that everyone at the legacies retired in the last 15 years or so? Sweet!!!

If a regional wanted relaxed scope, it has to come from the majors... not the other way around.

Scope has been given away by the majors, and anybody who was a regional pilot and now sitting at the majors, cursing those damn Barbie jets, is exactly the type of "useful idiot" that management loves.

 

I understand your resentment toward hypocrisy, but I disagree with your statement.

The folks at the majors now who have experienced the regional lifestyle to its fullest are IMO much more likely to vote to keep scope than the people who have never experienced today's "regional" lifestyle.

 

I agree ..take it back... all of it.. is the only way... tooo many obstacles.
-- Try getting Mainline pilots to fly small jets for what the company is willing to pay... NOT ( oh.. thats part of the reason this situation is what it is )
-- I find it sad that some above said he was tired of being furloughed.... but 1000's of other would be furloughed if this came about... lives ruined...etc... just like what has happened already.....
-- Rick is right....there is a large group of regional pilots ... fairly senior CAs who make 80-120K per year....live in base... have great seniority.. good QOL.. and they are not going anywhere... NO incentive for them to support this
-- These regionals are LARGE corporations in and unto themselves..they are NOT going to go gracefully into the night and just close down without a fight ( buy them is the best way ) ..this is the reason RAH is doing what it has been doing... BB years ago foresaw the possible reduction in regional feed and made a decision to some way some how become a big plane airline... we will see how that works out
-- Its pretty ballsy to use the premise that regional guys should just fold up shop... and take one for the team... and HOPE they might get picked up by a major carrier...hum... yea.
-- I hope some way it can happen, the only way I see that it even having a chance is for the mainline carriers to just fold the code sharing regionals into the company as mainline employees. Anything else if fraught with peril.

 

Herc Driver you seem upset with the prospect of possibly losing your job based on the decisions of others. How do you think the mainline pilots feel that have been furloughed, many of us twice? 70 seaters at United came about because of a backroom deal by one MEC chairman, zero input from the pilots. "Fraught with Peril"? There were no complaints from the regional pilots when they went from flying 30 seat turb props making $40K a year to $120K flying 70-90 seat jets. I think that you will find there are plenty of furloughed mainline pilots and even those on the property that are making $70k a year that would jump at the chance to fly them at those wages. What exactly are the regional pilots going to do to stop it from occuring?

 

Absolutely nothing. Remain status quo.

Who is John Galt?

 

This is a great question? Anyone else with answers on where this issue was during the Dal/Nwa negotiation?