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Old 09-14-2010 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dashtrash300
Do they mean ANY failed checkrides? Who cares if you failed your private 10 years ago? I think what they are looking for are 2 or more failures with the airlines. That is what I would assume they are talking about. I guess if you failed a bunch of your training checkrides then maybe they would care.
Nope. I believe its any failed checkride. They let a couple dudes go baxk when i interviewed in may for having 2 or more. I don't know why they offered to bring them to the interview to begin with unless they didn't disclose it. It was a huge deal.when I was there. They asked me at least 5 times. And even said are you sure you haven't failed anything. It's like they didn't believe me.
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Old 09-14-2010 | 02:45 PM
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FAA is apparently really really far up their butts. That's what i've heard.

Recency is HUGE with Eagle. Also, they're not taking people that are "too experienced". Pretty much everyone i've talked to with 2000+ hours are being turned down.
That seems rediculous to me. So if I had some hard lessons learned while taking CFI rides 7 years ago that makes me a bad pilot but 2500 hours of multi 135 time (3 years worth) of frieght flying (on top of 3 years teaching) with checkrides every 6 months and no problems still makes me a bad pilot? or worse? They need to look at the big picture a little bit more - if they want fewer accidents they need to hire professionals that have meaningful expirience, not a 500 hour CFI who's done nothing but teach landings and 8's on pylons that was gods gift to aviation and managed to pass all his checkrides, but that doesn't mean he has the expirience or attitude necessary - it just means he did good on test day. What matters is how they fly and what kind of safety attitude they have when no one is looking, or when an examiner isn't in the other seat.

I guess since they don't want people with too much expirence they want a yes man who is easily intimidated and gets uncomfortable hand flying to less than 1 mile vis and 800 foot ceilings.

If you come from a background with real day to day expirience (such as 135 frieght in a northern climate) I guess either you know what you're doing or you're a cowboy and they don't want anything to do with you.
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Old 09-14-2010 | 02:54 PM
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Eagle will not hire anyone if they have failed a check ride that's on the PRIA meaning the last 5 years. Pure and simple. They can afford to be picky.
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Old 09-14-2010 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BZNpilot248
That seems rediculous to me. So if I had some hard lessons learned while taking CFI rides 7 years ago that makes me a bad pilot but 2500 hours of multi 135 time (3 years worth) of frieght flying (on top of 3 years teaching) with checkrides every 6 months and no problems still makes me a bad pilot? or worse? They need to look at the big picture a little bit more - if they want fewer accidents they need to hire professionals that have meaningful expirience, not a 500 hour CFI who's done nothing but teach landings and 8's on pylons that was gods gift to aviation and managed to pass all his checkrides, but that doesn't mean he has the expirience or attitude necessary - it just means he did good on test day. What matters is how they fly and what kind of safety attitude they have when no one is looking, or when an examiner isn't in the other seat.

I guess since they don't want people with too much expirence they want a yes man who is easily intimidated and gets uncomfortable hand flying to less than 1 mile vis and 800 foot ceilings.

If you come from a background with real day to day expirience (such as 135 frieght in a northern climate) I guess either you know what you're doing or you're a cowboy and they don't want anything to do with you.
Eagle is not necessarily looking for the most experienced people. They just need pilots that are willing to stay at Eagle/AMR for the long term.
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Old 09-14-2010 | 02:59 PM
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Hey guys I have read that Colgan won't interview you if you have more than 2 checkride failures, and American Eagle will kick you out of an interview if they find out you have ever failed a checkride.

Is there any truth to this? That you could be invited to an interview and then just sent home simply because you failed a few check rides back in your training days?
If you have more than two failed check rides then you wont even be invited to interview with Colgan. If you lie about it on your application you will be sent home from the interview, if you lie about it in your interview when they find it in your FAA records they will send you home from ground school. It has happened already. As previously said its not really a pilots market right now everyone can afford to be picky.
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Old 09-14-2010 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dashtrash300
Do they mean ANY failed checkrides? Who cares if you failed your private 10 years ago? I think what they are looking for are 2 or more failures with the airlines. That is what I would assume they are talking about. I guess if you failed a bunch of your training checkrides then maybe they would care.
From what I have understood, they are referring to pre employment checkrides, Private, instrument, commercial, CFI, etc.

However it would make more sense, and be more realistic, if they were talking about 121/135 training.
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Old 09-14-2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy
From what I have understood, they are referring to pre employment checkrides, Private, instrument, commercial, CFI, etc.

However it would make more sense, and be more realistic, if they were talking about 121/135 training.
Any failed 121 training is also a no go at Colgan
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Old 09-14-2010 | 03:02 PM
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So the PRIA only shows the last 5 years? If you failed a checkride that was 6 years ago, it won't show up?
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Old 09-14-2010 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy
From what I have understood, they are referring to pre employment checkrides, Private, instrument, commercial, CFI, etc.

However it would make more sense, and be more realistic, if they were talking about 121/135 training.
They are talking about anything that shows up on your PRIA. That's all they will ever see.
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Old 09-14-2010 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
Also, they're not taking people that are "too experienced". Pretty much everyone i've talked to with 2000+ hours are being turned down.
This is not true.
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