Proposed new pay package for SkyWest
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For current SkyWest pilots...for someone getting on in early 2011, what would be a realistic time frame for upgrade? I have 4 years seniority with my current airline and I am trying to decide if it is worth jumping ship. I do not anticipate upgrading for another 3 years. With all the hiring that is anticipated...is a 2-3 year upgrade going to be feasible? What percentage of CA's would you estimate are never going to leave? Is SkyWest going to be another airline that has 20+ year CA's?
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From: EMB 145 CPT
You need a survey that asks more important questions. Something about unionizing and one list.
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For current SkyWest pilots...for someone getting on in early 2011, what would be a realistic time frame for upgrade? I have 4 years seniority with my current airline and I am trying to decide if it is worth jumping ship. I do not anticipate upgrading for another 3 years. With all the hiring that is anticipated...is a 2-3 year upgrade going to be feasible? What percentage of CA's would you estimate are never going to leave? Is SkyWest going to be another airline that has 20+ year CA's?
Assuming the regional industry stays mostly status quo (little or no growth) I suspect a jet upgrade at SKW might be ten years for today's new hire. Good chance of quicker upgrade on the EMB, assuming that they don't get rid of them like they keep threatening to. That might be five years or even less.
The rumored massive mainline retirements and pilot shortage will only help the situation if there are no economic or other industry crises. Also be aware that if the CA's don't move on to mainline, they will have to hire regional FO's...you might see guys at SKW who would like to upgrade but are not moving because all the mainline hiring attrition is happening below them! If mainline starts hiring FO's in a wholesale fashion they will have to shift their selection process to be less focused on flight time and more focused on the whole person. In this scenario a mediocre human being who has lots of flight time might lose out to a an FO with 1000 RJ SIC hours, a college degree, good grades, and extracurricular/volunteer activities (and a winning personality).
I am particularly concerned about oil...as the global economy warms up that is headed on one direction only.
Basically it's going to be a balance between mainline hiring/regional attrition vs. oil prices.
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I remember the last question on the survey asking if you supported SAPA in its current form, a certified SAPA, ALPA, or other legal representation. I think the largest support was for a certified SAPA.
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Seems like SAPA is dropping the ball. The pilots want them to be their representative organization AND have all the legal rights and abilities to do so under the RLA, yet SAPA is shelving the issue for no legitimate reason.
Seems like a great organization to be the leaders of the SKW pilots.
Seems like a great organization to be the leaders of the SKW pilots.
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Seems like SAPA is dropping the ball. The pilots want them to be their representative organization AND have all the legal rights and abilities to do so under the RLA, yet SAPA is shelving the issue for no legitimate reason.
Seems like a great organization to be the leaders of the SKW pilots.
Seems like a great organization to be the leaders of the SKW pilots.
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For current SkyWest pilots...for someone getting on in early 2011, what would be a realistic time frame for upgrade? I have 4 years seniority with my current airline and I am trying to decide if it is worth jumping ship. I do not anticipate upgrading for another 3 years. With all the hiring that is anticipated...is a 2-3 year upgrade going to be feasible? What percentage of CA's would you estimate are never going to leave? Is SkyWest going to be another airline that has 20+ year CA's?
Junior EMB captain just awarded is at nearly 4 1/2 years seniority, with another 900 pilots junior to him. We only have 200 or so EMB captains. Junior RJ captain just awarded has nearly 1300 pilots junior to him. Even come 2013, if we lose 30 pilots a month, it will take a long time to move up the list.
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