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#51

bailee atr , 11-09-2010 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buddies8

Although FEDEX and UPS fly airplanes that is about the end of similarities with Airline pilots such as AA, DAL, UAL etc;. FedEx and UPS are two global cargo carriers and they do pattern pricing just as mainlines but there are only two of them and they control the pricing. Where as mainlines product pricing has 5 mainlines, 3 LCC's having an effect on the product pricing.

For all purposes FEDEX and UPS have a monopoly on cargo pricing whereas mainlines due not. Cargo carrier's can also pass on the fuel cost easier than mainlines.

So there is a reason for why you cannot generate contracts as FEDEX and UPS at mainlines. Plus the cargo carriers can generate revenue with there surface transportation, I dont know of any mainline having busing transportation subsidiaries, unless you compare regionals to cargo air carriers ground transportation.

There are 2 faces to every coin. Not that I disagree with your statement, but that is managements reasoning. Labor sees it as being the same job with the same requirments..... which equals the same pay. We all come from the same labor pool and if AA wants the best pilots, (just like Jerry Maguire) show me the money.

#52

bailee atr , 11-09-2010 05:14 PM

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By the way AA has one of the largest cargo operations in the world.
American Airlines Cargo, a division of American Airlines, Inc., provides more than 100 million pounds of weekly cargo lift capacity to major cities in the United States, Europe, Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, Latin America and Asia.

#53

jwes , 11-20-2010 08:06 PM

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Eagle Alpa just put out a video were they believe the writting in on the wall about Eagle and a divesture...Wonder how it will all play out? Good for us or bad, Hmmmmm

#54

dojetdriver , 11-20-2010 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iahflyr

American pilots should not be making what FedEx and UPS pilots are.

Hmmmm.......interesting.

I wonder if pre 9/11, as well a before the most recent FedEx/UPS CBA's, people thought that FedEx and UPS pilots should not be making what American pilots are?

And just to keep it in perspective, FedEx and UPS current rates kinda suck compared to UAL/DAL's pre BK rates.

#55

Gators , 11-21-2010 12:01 PM

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So... what did the Eagle ALPA video say?

#56

Flyby1206 , 11-21-2010 05:01 PM

SDQ Base Chief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gators

So... what did the Eagle ALPA video say?

Ehh, not anything shocking. It was our MEC Chairman telling us that it appears a divestiture is imminent, and it is looking to take the form of a spin off to existing AMR shareholders (as opposed to being bought by another carrier, or private equity firm). The future will hold tough situations such as AA offering new aircraft for pay concessions, and probably another 1-2 carriers performing a chunk of the flying we do today.

#57

littlebuddha , 11-23-2010 05:56 AM

Line Holder

jwes, you need to change your position......

#58

scudrun , 11-23-2010 06:45 AM

On Reserve

Just want to make sure I understand (thinking about what regional to work for):
AE will be sold in the next few years for sure? - Meaning that it will be either a very bad or very good thing for AE pilots? How would turn out good, how would it turn out bad?

#59

atrdriver , 11-23-2010 01:50 PM

Not A Janitor

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

Good=Expand,more planes.
Bad=BK. Park planes. Caput.

Most likely the latter. I'd avoid Eagle like the plague. Even Lakes is sounding better right about now...

#60

Flyby1206 , 11-23-2010 01:55 PM

SDQ Base Chief

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

Good=Expand,more planes.
Bad=BK. Park planes. Caput.

Even if things go "good" I bet it will be at the expense of pay/work rule concessions. If things go "bad" it will probably be because we dont accept any concessions. It might be a defeatist attitude, but expect the worst and hope for the best.

The other major players in the regional industry will dictate what happens with us as well, so keep an eye on who gets what for a contract in the near term.