I fail to see where APA mentions A320 and E190's that are replacing AE flying which is the same as replacing AA flying. Seems when you have a known dog to kick around just keep kicking the same dog (AE). APA now has West Jet with JB interline agreement with AA. Wait and see how some known AE and AA routes start appearing as West Jet and JetBlue flight. BOS-DCA is JB, BOS-RDU is in NOV JB. APA is short on insight. AA will allow AE to be replaced on routes by JB and West Jet and AE will move aircraft over and replace AA mainline flying. Yeap, keep kicking the little dog.

Oh, I still forcast that AA will have an interline agreement with Frontier in the next three months. GO APA.

 

Of course it's possible. It's precisely the same thing CAL did to COEX (ExpressJet) in 2002....and that worked out out real well.....for CAL of course.

 

Yea, there's definitely some bigger plane scope issues eating their lunch. As for the article, it was written by Mike Boyd and was Eagle specific, which is what the OP started the topic with.

Not looking good for Eagle per say, but from an industry perspective, there are better (than eagle) jobs being created, albeit at the expense of APA jobs.

 

Boyd has been a consultant for APA for at least 5 years. Just like any consultant, I only get paid if I make my customer is happy. Boyd publicizes his forecasts at every media possible short of having a blog of his own. APA and Boyd can keep looking at AE all they want. APA will give scope for additional CRJ700 and maybe small number CRJ900's as I read between the lines if APA can have AA get the 125-140 seater's at AA. I see a US Airways type deal coming.

But I still think the interline agreements will be to move AE aircraft out of routes replaced by interline agreement airlines and AE replaces AA mainline flights. This way no Interline agreement airlines have replaced an AA mainline route, it was replaced by an AE aircraft. AA already now has A320 and E190's and B737 from interline agreement airlines flying on some of the same routes with overlap. I would not worry about AE if I was APA or Boyd. Besides Boyd failed to mention that after 67 dollars a barrel of oil the S80 is a gas hog and flying on that airplane for 3-4 hours hurts also.

The rplacement aircraft for S80 at AA is here. A320, E190 and B737, they just not crewed by APA pilots. So yes APA with Boyd's analysis has kept AE from flying larger aircraft within house but others are, and those airplanes are still not crewed by APA pilots.

But if I was a consultant for APA, I would tell them to get over AE, they are here. You should worry not to let someone else show up on property. That working with AE pilots is better than working with JB or West Jet pilots because there companies have there own shareholders to pacify, not AMR's.

 

I think thats a stretch... but we shall see. The other carriers bring a lot more to the property than Eagle ever can by virtue of mainline equipment, not antiquated uneconomical capacity. And I speak solely in reference to the airframes.

I see a Comair type reduction at AE with a sell off of the balance to Republic or SkyWest.

The next generation model, the C-series Canadair fits the gap at AA nicely. (BTW, page 18 of that same publication has a piece on the MD-80.)

 

True, that wasnt nice of me.

Lets break out the ole reliable Jetblue/AE merger. Eagle is sold to jetBlue. Garton becomes new CEO. Barger takes a high level position at AMR or remains as President of AE/jetblue.

jetblue can re-assign their A320s/E190s across the Eagle system to cover higher density flying out of ORD/DFW. Eagle would park all E135/140s and keep about 50-80 E145s. Remaining E145s would cover existing lower density JB routes like JFK-BTV/ROC/SYR/etc with increased frequency compared to what JB currently does with the A320/E190. Eagle parks all ATRs and orders Q400s for Caribbean, Miami, and possibly short haul routes in the other bases.

seniority lists merged. jetblue pilots have super seniority on all A320/E190 flying. Eagle pilots have super seniority on all CRJ/E145/Q400 flying. Master sen list has top half of current JB pilots, top half of current AE pilots (most of them will be gone to AA for flowthrough), bottom half of current JB pilots, then bottom half of current Eagle pilots.

New union representation for AE+JB combo, APA. APA creates a master seniority list for AA/JB+AE and creates mechanisms for pilots to move between the carriers.

AA mainline continues to focus on transcon and premium domestic and int'l first class service while Eagle+JB does a sort of economy/business type offering while keeping a low cost structure.

 

Flyby, can I have some of that stuff you're smoking? It has to be real good.

 

hurry and get out, sky will fall, rivers will flow upstream, it's y2k all over again.

Regardless of what happens, why would some live in fear of what they don't know or what's not under their control? Enjoy your job until that day comes!

 

you guys are scaring me. I have an interview at eagle coming up, and I'm not at all in tune with whats going on.

can somebody clue me in ?

 

Its a lot like that Charles Dickens novel "A tale of two cities", when it says it was the best of times, it was the worst of times." I think that pretty sums up Eagle.

"the best of times":
We had a bid with 121 captain vacancies."came out on oct 20"
About 160 more captains should be leaving to AA.
MIA should be opening as a base in FEB.
LAX base should double in size.
Still have 13 more CRJ to be delivered.

"It worst of times"
Eagles gonna get sold
A crap load of 50 and less seat aircraft.