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Old 10-23-2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
I'm old enough for any Eastwood flick.

But in all seriousness, from the people that see this trend that may occur, am I just wasting my time? I have a good paying flying job where life is good, but flight time is single engine vfr. Do you think I should stay put? or go to Eagle and hang on to the roller coaster that might happen. I must say, the lure of flying a jet is working, I never thought I would have shiny jet syndrome but I have it now. GA aircraft just aren't doing it for me.

I'm assuming that everybody who makes these post are people with a higher perspective of the 121 world than me, so I'm just asking for a bit of advice, when the final decision has to be made I'll make it.
Regionals is not what its cracked up to be. The shinny new jet syndrome will last for about a year. If you have family and good QOL eagle or any regional might not be a good place to go. It seems like there is always a new flavor of the week when it comes to regionals. There will be a lot of cynicism but there will also be great people. I guess it depends on what your goals are and if you can afford fo pay at any regional. I am not at eagle but I am at my second regional and they are not too different from each other which leads me to believe that eagle might be similar.
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Old 10-23-2010 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
Regionals is not what its cracked up to be. The shinny new jet syndrome will last for about a year. If you have family and good QOL eagle or any regional might not be a good place to go. It seems like there is always a new flavor of the week when it comes to regionals. There will be a lot of cynicism but there will also be great people. I guess it depends on what your goals are and if you can afford fo pay at any regional. I am not at eagle but I am at my second regional and they are not too different from each other which leads me to believe that eagle might be similar.
Ditto, but if your goal is airline pilot, and you do not have access to moving up to multi turbine, you may have to pull the trigger on the regional.
I don't like it, but thats the name of the game.
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Old 10-23-2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Is an IPO even possible? Since they are owned by AMR are they already publicly traded as AMR?
I don't think it'd make much difference since AE is already on the balance sheets. Removing them would adjust AMR's valuation and just move that to AE. Not to mention AE only has one revenue stream. Just guessing but I think it'd come down to just selling or keeping AE>
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Old 10-24-2010 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Stick to your current job. it is hard to find a good paying job. You might not even get to fly a shiny jet at Eagle, we are still sending a lot of newhires to the ATR in SJU, MIA, DFW. Im not sure where you live, but be prepared to commute across the country regardless if you come to Eagle.
Not true. His chances of getting to a CRJ or ERJ are pretty good as a new hire.
I just don't get some of you guys.
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Old 10-24-2010 | 07:50 AM
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Not true. His chances of getting to a CRJ or ERJ are pretty good as a new hire.
I just don't get some of you guys.
Yea, I agree his chances are good of getting a jet as a newhire, but if he cant accept the possibility of being awarded or displaced into an ATR FO in SJU then this might not be the best place. Hope for the best, expect the worst kind of thing. If someone is dead set on a jet then go to one of the all-jet regional carriers.
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Old 10-24-2010 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Yea, I agree his chances are good of getting a jet as a newhire, but if he cant accept the possibility of being awarded or displaced into an ATR FO in SJU then this might not be the best place. Hope for the best, expect the worst kind of thing. If someone is dead set on a jet then go to one of the all-jet regional carriers.
There were 25 vacancies for the crj in LGA that went to new hires and they are not back filling 9 SJU FO .... Chances are you'll be on the jet. Mabey MIA or DFW ATR but I haven't seen any 50 plus vacancies for any prop bases lately. Even if by the slim chance you do get stuck on the ATR, first year pay is the same. When you year is up you'll be able to bid the CRJ and hold a line on it.(at least in LGA)
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Old 10-24-2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bailee atr
There were 25 vacancies for the crj in LGA that went to new hires and they are not back filling 9 SJU FO .... Chances are you'll be on the jet. Mabey MIA or DFW ATR but I haven't seen any 50 plus vacancies for any prop bases lately. Even if by the slim chance you do get stuck on the ATR, first year pay is the same. When you year is up you'll be able to bid the CRJ and hold a line on it.(at least in LGA)
How about???

Get hired now if you can. They project to hire 300 more next year and those are the ones that are going to be displaced and not you. Of course is just a "projection" so nothing is sure.

I hope I can get ORD EMJ or LGA CRJ.
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Old 10-25-2010 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
...am I just wasting my time? I have a good paying flying job where life is good, but flight time is single engine vfr. Do you think I should stay put? or go to Eagle and hang on to the roller coaster that might happen. I must say, the lure of flying a jet is working, I never thought I would have shiny jet syndrome but I have it now. GA aircraft just aren't doing it for me.
Life is good? Why would you want to mess with that?

How old are you?

Where do you live and want to live?

Do you have a wife? kids at home?

Are you independently wealthy or at least have a nice cash cushion and little debt?

Are you dying to be an airline pilot or just a jet pilot?

With some seniority Eagle is an ok place, but you will never get rich here. The future is quite uncertain but we'll be ok for a few years I think; like mwa says, the ability to staff our planned flying is the wildcard. A couple of years back we were unable to get enough newhires to do all the flying AA wanted us to do so we left flying uncaptured. That may very well happen again, and soon. OTOH if we can get the staffing and 180 senior captains leave in 2011 (likely at this point imo) then the next couple of years will be good. The planned divestiture is a huge unknown too, and probably will not be a good thing long term imo.

You need to be extremely introspective and exercise severe restraint on the SJS before you make the move. I've flown everything from 150s to 737s and they're all just airplanes. Some of my favorite professional flying was in Navajos, and that was after a furlough from a legacy 737.

We definitely need you though.
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Old 10-25-2010 | 07:16 AM
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What if you want to be based in MIA on the ATR....how would ones chances look?
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Old 10-25-2010 | 07:56 AM
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hey, want the job - take it. you get based on your seniority in class, (high number to oldest, low number to youngest) and what the company has available.
FYI Downsizing SJU by 3 planes. No displacement on the ATR, so excess pilots 20 F/O's, CRJ in DFW downsizing, no displacement 30 F/O's (about), downsizing EMJ in northeast, no displacements- 135 F/O's. Roll the dice or walk away. All these pilots are on the move.
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