For the Skywest pilots who refused CO flight
01-10-2011 | 06:23 AM
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I don't understand all the mechanics behind airline marketing, but passrider shows a CO code... When you go into CAL's website, however, the flight doesn't exist. You would have to make your purchase through UAL's website if you want to fly a 50+ seater nonstop... so does that show compliance with the ruling? I don't know... just an outsider's observation.
01-10-2011 | 07:35 AM
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01-10-2011 | 09:19 AM
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Forgive my ignorance, but in defense of "Mr. Hero", who is protecting a SkyWest guy who refuses? He has no contract with a scope clause in it or reference to a scope clause in it, because he has no contract. So while it sounds great to bang the drums for, as was said earlier, what prevents this pilot from being fired? He refused an assignment that was not in violation of his work rules? He has no Union to represent him? The flight was legal per FAR's and aircraft was airworthy? What is his defense, other than a reference to a contract that does not consider his existance?
01-10-2011 | 04:43 PM
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Forgive my ignorance, but in defense of "Mr. Hero", who is protecting a SkyWest guy who refuses? He has no contract with a scope clause in it or reference to a scope clause in it, because he has no contract. So while it sounds great to bang the drums for, as was said earlier, what prevents this pilot from being fired? He refused an assignment that was not in violation of his work rules? He has no Union to represent him? The flight was legal per FAR's and aircraft was airworthy? What is his defense, other than a reference to a contract that does not consider his existance?
01-10-2011 | 05:47 PM
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If part of this thread might be "Good Pilots who need and deserve our help"....
I am one of them.
I was terminated for refusing to report for duty...WHILE UNFIT FOR FLIGHT.
Before the termination I contacted my ALPA Rep and then I followed their instruction exactly.. Problem was he was not competent. And now ALPA won't invest their resource to get me out of a jam
I am one of them.
I was terminated for refusing to report for duty...WHILE UNFIT FOR FLIGHT.
Before the termination I contacted my ALPA Rep and then I followed their instruction exactly.. Problem was he was not competent. And now ALPA won't invest their resource to get me out of a jam
01-11-2011 | 12:37 AM
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Getting canned from a Part 121 air carrier, and applying to ANY air carrier in the current market will probably not even get to the interview stage to mitigate those circumstances.
Sure, networked / walked in / buddy-buddy with a supportive hiring dude/dudette, sure, I guess anything is possible.
01-11-2011 | 06:10 AM
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Getting canned from a Part 121 air carrier, and applying to ANY air carrier in the current market will probably not even get to the interview stage to mitigate those circumstances.
Sure, networked / walked in / buddy-buddy with a supportive hiring dude/dudette, sure, I guess anything is possible.
Sure, networked / walked in / buddy-buddy with a supportive hiring dude/dudette, sure, I guess anything is possible.
01-11-2011 | 06:29 AM
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Forgive my ignorance, but in defense of "Mr. Hero", who is protecting a SkyWest guy who refuses? He has no contract with a scope clause in it or reference to a scope clause in it, because he has no contract. So while it sounds great to bang the drums for, as was said earlier, what prevents this pilot from being fired? He refused an assignment that was not in violation of his work rules? He has no Union to represent him? The flight was legal per FAR's and aircraft was airworthy? What is his defense, other than a reference to a contract that does not consider his existance?
They probably view the potential cost of antagonizing the pilot group on this issue as much too high (sick calls at outstations, union drives, etc).
The is a lot of grey area and confusion over exactly what is legal with this deal...I think the company will give pilots the benefit of the doubt.
01-11-2011 | 09:54 AM
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Just giving you reality. Getting past the first step (your application) to a job at ANY air carrier will be tough when you fill in the blank with "canned, fired, terminated, whatever" from a previous air carrier job in the not so distant past.
And that is EXACTLY why many / most companies allow some allowance for that when it's time for you to go.
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