Prefered Minimums???
07-16-2011 | 12:05 PM
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I personally think that is just bad practice. I don't care if their program is the most intensive training program known to man, what if the person they hire is a total D-bag. Isn't part of the interview the HR portion used to see if they can stand to be with you for 4 days straight? The fact the bypass the entire interview process and get a job if they meet the requirements seems silly to me.
07-16-2011 | 01:06 PM
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Fortunately most of them realized at some point that they didn't have the devotion to apply for food stamps and walked away.
It doesn't matter what school you went to, at 250 hours you aren't anywhere near prepared to fly anything resembling an airliner.
07-16-2011 | 02:05 PM
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If yes to all, then YES, I agree, the 1000 hrs guys should be picked before 500 hrs guys get looked at....
But, isn't it that Eagle was at 800/100 Hrs for a good 5 to 6 months, what could be the reason they dropped to 500/50 if there were tons of 1000 hrs guys applying ........
07-16-2011 | 02:30 PM
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I presume you know that most foreign airlines do just that through their cadet programs. That the US Military does the same, putting 500-hour pilots in planes with bombs or with 200K of cargo on international routes with 3 air refuelings planned. It is the type of training, the discipline imposed and the willingness to can those that can't hack it that defines the graduates.
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I presume you know that most foreign airlines do just that through their cadet programs. That the US Military does the same, putting 500-hour pilots in planes with bombs or with 200K of cargo on international routes with 3 air refuelings planned. It is the type of training, the discipline imposed and the willingness to can those that can't hack it that defines the graduates.
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07-16-2011 | 02:46 PM
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I can draw few comparisons between any collegiate flight program in the US (or any school for that matter), and any of the airline cadet or military training programs. The difference in training and monitoring is night and day.
07-16-2011 | 03:23 PM
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I'd say the screening of applicants is the biggest different.
07-16-2011 | 05:46 PM
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Then, the question is why is it different? Because would be pilots keep ponying up the money and the schools keep training and passing them. Why is that? Because student pilots refuse to believe they should have been shoe salesman and the attraction of being a highly paid airline pilot blinds them to the obvious. Witness, Marvin Renslow.
Schools need to be monitored and held to standards similar to airline cadet programs and military training. I'll bet a lot BA's, Lufthansa's or Cathay Pacific's program is every bit as demanding as the RAF's or USAF's.
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Then, the question is why is it different? Because would be pilots keep ponying up the money and the schools keep training and passing them. Why is that? Because student pilots refuse to believe they should have been shoe salesman and the attraction of being a highly paid airline pilot blinds them to the obvious. Witness, Marvin Renslow.
Schools need to be monitored and held to standards similar to airline cadet programs and military training. I'll bet a lot BA's, Lufthansa's or Cathay Pacific's program is every bit as demanding as the RAF's or USAF's.
GF
07-16-2011 | 08:15 PM
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I presume you know that most foreign airlines do just that through their cadet programs. That the US Military does the same, putting 500-hour pilots in planes with bombs or with 200K of cargo on international routes with 3 air refuelings planned. It is the type of training, the discipline imposed and the willingness to can those that can't hack it that defines the graduates.
GF
I presume you know that most foreign airlines do just that through their cadet programs. That the US Military does the same, putting 500-hour pilots in planes with bombs or with 200K of cargo on international routes with 3 air refuelings planned. It is the type of training, the discipline imposed and the willingness to can those that can't hack it that defines the graduates.
GF
07-16-2011 | 10:11 PM
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From my experience, and other instructors and low-time friends I know in the idustry, I will say that very few people are getting hired without at least 800-1000TT/80-100multi unless they either have strong internal recs or graduate from one of these few bridge programs. I can guarantee that these sub-500 pilots are not the norm for CFI-timebuilding types to get hired at the airlines.
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