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#62
That's awesome! I figured that most had blacklisted my posts at this point. Thought I was the only one who was actually able to see them.
As far as my posts go, I'm sorry but my rose-colored glasses came off years ago.
Btw, love you too!
As far as my posts go, I'm sorry but my rose-colored glasses came off years ago.
Btw, love you too!
#64
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Hot Mama, you don't seem to like your job, I don't like mine either! Can we exchange? You will be in an office from 8am to 8pm, sometimes later, going from conference call to conference call, dealing with corporate political BS all day...You will like the compensation for sure :-)
I enjoy flying and I am just looking to make this my job, not looking for admiration as you put it. As for my family, I have one little girl and her college is taken care of.
I enjoy flying and I am just looking to make this my job, not looking for admiration as you put it. As for my family, I have one little girl and her college is taken care of.
#66
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From: Cloud surfing
Just the outsider here, but if you have children, the more immediate question is what will you tell them, 7 years from now, as a RJ F/O making 36k that they can't go to college or the prom? There are thousands of guys stuck in FO positions going nowhere! The number of "heavy" captains is in the hundreds--I've known only one or two 747 captains among hundreds of airline captains.
It was easy when I was 23 or 24, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, I owned was transportable in a Ford Pinto. No wife, no kids and I joked that I was the "low cost" pilot. Shift to house, family, middle age and all the risks and downsides become much vaster. Just consider starting an aviation career now, failing even for reasons beyond your control, say another 9/11 blow, and then starting over AGAIN. I, like any good pilot, is seriously conservative with risk.
Don't get me wrong, I love my current position, I have an opportunity to fly new business jets just about everywhere, but starting out is tough. I am, flat-out, lucky to be where I am, every time I needed a job, I had friends, commanders who were ready to lend a hand. I never had a serious resume, just call, " hey, I'm looking for a job, any ideas" type of deal. Damned lucky, get friends and then get some more.
The best deals are situations where you can grasp a chance outside of the regionals. I recently flew with a guy who turned an office position into a pilot position at a charter operator. He was a pilot with limited experience, but worked, insisted and won a chance in a biz jet. That way avoids the logjam of the regionals, gives you a chance to earn reasonable income, no commuting. But those chances are made by luck and hard work.
Everybody is at regionals, get somewhere else, where you might stand out, someplace where flying skills aren't the ONLY criteria to be judged by. Use that "other" life experience to stand out from the crowd.
GF
It was easy when I was 23 or 24, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, I owned was transportable in a Ford Pinto. No wife, no kids and I joked that I was the "low cost" pilot. Shift to house, family, middle age and all the risks and downsides become much vaster. Just consider starting an aviation career now, failing even for reasons beyond your control, say another 9/11 blow, and then starting over AGAIN. I, like any good pilot, is seriously conservative with risk.
Don't get me wrong, I love my current position, I have an opportunity to fly new business jets just about everywhere, but starting out is tough. I am, flat-out, lucky to be where I am, every time I needed a job, I had friends, commanders who were ready to lend a hand. I never had a serious resume, just call, " hey, I'm looking for a job, any ideas" type of deal. Damned lucky, get friends and then get some more.
The best deals are situations where you can grasp a chance outside of the regionals. I recently flew with a guy who turned an office position into a pilot position at a charter operator. He was a pilot with limited experience, but worked, insisted and won a chance in a biz jet. That way avoids the logjam of the regionals, gives you a chance to earn reasonable income, no commuting. But those chances are made by luck and hard work.
Everybody is at regionals, get somewhere else, where you might stand out, someplace where flying skills aren't the ONLY criteria to be judged by. Use that "other" life experience to stand out from the crowd.
GF
Yes, you have a great advice there, I am not only looking at regionals but at everything else. The regionals are using pilots paying them next to nothing, I just want to use them too and get the time. And yea, I need to look for "luck" and friends just like you, LOL.
#67
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Hot Mama, you don't seem to like your job, I don't like mine either! Can we exchange? You will be in an office from 8am to 8pm, sometimes later, going from conference call to conference call, dealing with corporate political BS all day...You will like the compensation for sure :-)
I enjoy flying and I am just looking to make this my job, not looking for admiration as you put it. As for my family, I have one little girl and her college is taken care of.
I enjoy flying and I am just looking to make this my job, not looking for admiration as you put it. As for my family, I have one little girl and her college is taken care of.
I have a great Job, a decent business in Real Estate which makes EASY 6 figures annually that one can live comfortably. I would love to exchange my job with anyone who hates their job flying a 737 or a 320 or ATR or CRJ 700 or E170/190.
Open offer, to Any regional FO who thinks that he is stuck making 36K, I can easily put that that guy in IT support making 60-75k or REAL ESTATE making 80-100k & I will take his job flying anyone of the above mentioned planes.......
U give me your job which U HATE SO MUCH & I will give U mine.....
#68
i don't think that hotmamapilot doesn't like her job, she's just trying to point out to you that it's not what you think it is. you'd be surprised how many people really consider getting out of flying tomorrow but they can't because they put too much into it.
#70
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I know the struggle & the frustration & lack of adequate income at the initial stage in aviation. That is what made me quit once.
But that doesn't mean we start discouraging every newcomer by posting the HORROR stories.... Giving a true picture & discouraging are 2 different things......
If it is so BAD then why are so many stuck in it......... This is a free country, no one is holding any regional pilot hostage or to forced labour..
I have seen both sides, flying job with very little income, no room for progression, no growth and lot of frustration & non flying job with very decent money and a lot of unhappiness & dis-satisfaction in personal & professional life.
That is why people like me & baronrouge are here to seek advise & help not ridicule & negativity.......
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