viking767

I was told AE has 2900 pilots. At 35% of each new hire AA class , it would mean AA had to hire 8285 pilots to absorb all 2900 at the 35% ratio.( I know, I shouldn't do math in public).
I seriously doubt AA could do that in 5 years.
However , with an average pilot age of about 50 at AA, it might not be that much more then 5-10 years to go through the whole AE list.

Group W Bench

AMERICAN EAGLE MASTER EXECUTIVE COUNCIL
AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL
150 WESTPARK WAY, SUITE 130 | EULESS, TEXAS 76040 | 817-685-7474 | FAX 817-685-9797
July 19, 2011
Fellow American Eagle pilots:
On January 26, 2011, the MEC filed a grievance over AMRs plan to transfer the ownership of Eagles aircraft to AMR in anticipation of the possible divestiture of American Eagle from AMR.
AMRs stated desire was to own these aircraft for a number of reasons, not the least of which was to facilitate the transfer of Eagles flight operations to other feed operators in order to, diversify their feed.
If we were to win this grievance, it would not stop the transfer of ownership of Eagles aircraft to AA, nor would it stop the transfer of Eagles flight operations to other feed operators. What it would require is that pursuant to Section 1 of our collective bargaining agreement, Eagle pilots and the Eagle contract would have to transfer with aircraft to the other feed operator. For example, if AA were to outsource some of Eagles current flying to Mesa Airlines, the number of Eagle pilots required to staff those aircraft and contract would go with the aircraft to Mesa Airlines and be employed at that carrier with a five year window during which they could elect to transfer back to Eagle. In the end, though, the flying would leave American Eagle. This grievance was about pilot jobs, not the transfer of assets.
Today, we settled this grievance for an option the MEC believes to be better than our original contract provisions. The settlement is as follows:
1. Every American Eagle pilot who is on the American Eagle pilot seniority list as of October 11, 2011 will be offered a job as an American Airlines pilot in the future.
2. American Eagle pilots hired under this settlement agreement will not be subjected to a pre-employment interview or pre-employment medical examination prior to transferring to American Airlines.
3. American Eagle pilots will be offered a minimum of 35% of every American Airlines new-hire class. In the event that 35% of American Airlines new hire class is greater than 25 pilots per month, American Eagle will be required to release at least 25 Eagle pilots per month.
4. If American Eagle loses flying and such loss results in a furlough, American Airlines will increase the percentage of Eagle pilots in their new-hire classes to a minimum of 50%. The meter above will continue to apply.
5. If American Eagle loses flying and such loss might result in a furlough, American Airlines will also attempt to negotiate preferential interviews for American Eagle pilots at the carrier who has successfully bid for the flying that Eagle is losing.
6. This settlement does not impact the existing rights of American Eagle flow-through pilots who currently possess American Airlines pilot seniority numbers, or the rights of the 824 pilot positions awarded as remedy by Arbitrator Nicolau. Those provisions are in place and will remain effective without regard to this settlement agreement.
7. American Eagle has agreed to clarifying contract language regarding the scope of work that American Eagle pilots perform in the event of a divestiture.

Lone Palm

What if they just straight up retire certain aircraft? That could pose a problem.....

JT8D

I'm not so sure. Based on the projected retirements at AA over the next number of years it could easily be 16 years or more for the most junior guys at Eagle. No way is it worth so many years at a regional carrier IMO...

What

The fist 250 go in a straight shot, then 824 go at 50% with of tue street hiring (limited to like 25 a month, so it will go a little bit faster than the numbers above, take into account eagle retirements as well as guys going somewhere else)

fisherman

Remember, some Eagle pilots will turn 65 in the next few years, some Eagle guys will probably stay at Eagle, and some Eagle guys might go to another major, so it could be a little sooner than 16 years to go through the list

JT8D

I factored the 250 and the 824 at 50/50 in... it still doesn't look that great. If I were a new hire I wouldn't be expecting to go over any time within the next 15 years.

JT8D

If you want to stick around at a regional for that long vying for the banana they're dangling out there that may or may not even be real then more power to ya...

Stryker

It doesnt even have to be like that. Those of us who are junior will likely upgrade faster (hopefully) which will make us more marketable when other majors start hiring. If things move really fast at American, great. If not, well its not the only game in town.

Mason32

But you should certainly be expecting to have much more career progression than pilot groups with NO preferential hiring agreements....

yeah, so you have to pay your dues a little... at least you have light at the end of the tunnel and it's daylight... the other guys with nothing have only a train headed their way.