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Old 07-19-2011, 01:03 PM
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I have never received an automated message from ALPA. The message mentioned: "grievance; Career progression; Eagle aircraft transitioning to AA?" My friends called me to ask if I got the call and I thought they were messing with me. But when I was talking to them, I received the call.

Something is happening to Eagle this week and our Union isnt informing us.

Anyone know more? Doesn't sound good...

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Old 07-19-2011, 01:20 PM
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Well the message did mention "greatly enhanced career progression for Eagle Pilots." Whatever that means.
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Well here are some possibilities I heard. In the airline pilot world we tend to call them RUMORS.

1.) AA was trying to take our airplanes and we won that grievance.

2.) All parties involved are now looking into one seniority list and that would explain our career progression??
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Well here are some possibilities I heard. In the airline pilot world we tend to call them RUMORS.

1.) AA was trying to take our airplanes and we won that grievance.

2.) All parties involved are now looking into one seniority list and that would explain our career progression??
A lot of people are talking about scenario # 2. This is going to get interesting...
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Agreed...thats what I have been hearing. Union has been very--ODDLY--quiet the last month or two... Right seat in A320-Neo's very soon.
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:37 PM
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Docs are posted on Eagle ALPA site now.
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bgmann View Post
I have never received an automated message from ALPA. The message mentioned: "grievance; Career progression; Eagle aircraft transitioning to AA?" My friends called me to ask if I got the call and I thought they were messing with me. But when I was talking to them, I received the call.

Something is happening to Eagle this week and our Union isnt informing us.

Anyone know more? Doesn't sound good...
Not sure I would say something IS happening to eagle. It (the phone call) mentioned the grievance over placing the aircraft with a holding company. Which is a back door way of "selling" your equipment. The companies involved then turn around and "lease" their own equipment back.

To me it was not clear if alpa won the grievance or not. I hope so
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What did it say??
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I am still reading four documents..... but thus far....

1.Every American Eagle pilot who is on the American Eagle pilot seniority list as of October 11, 2011 will be offered a job as an American Airlines pilot in the future.
2. American Eagle pilots hired under this settlement agreement will not be subjected to a pre-employment interview or pre-employment medical examination prior to transferring to American Airlines.
3. American Eagle pilots will be offered a minimum of 35% of every American Airlines new-hire class. In the event that 35% of American Airlines’ new hire class is greater than 25 pilots per month, American Eagle will be required to release at least 25 Eagle pilots per month.
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I am still reading four documents..... but thus far....

1.Every American Eagle pilot who is on the American Eagle pilot seniority list as of October 11, 2011 will be offered a job as an American Airlines pilot in the future.
2. American Eagle pilots hired under this settlement agreement will not be subjected to a pre-employment interview or pre-employment medical examination prior to transferring to American Airlines.
3. American Eagle pilots will be offered a minimum of 35% of every American Airlines new-hire class. In the event that 35% of American Airlines’ new hire class is greater than 25 pilots per month, American Eagle will be required to release at least 25 Eagle pilots per month.
Wow...just wow...need more deets!

This combined with the "big fleet order announcement" rumored for AA tomorrow and one has to wonder exactly what AMR has up their sleeves...
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