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07-19-2011 | 07:44 PM

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It doesnt even have to be like that. Those of us who are junior will likely upgrade faster (hopefully) which will make us more marketable when other majors start hiring. If things move really fast at American, great. If not, well its not the only game in town.

somebody DOES see the larger picture... for crying out loud. All we every hear from newbies is I want my PIC hours and up and out.... well Eagle just got guaranteed movement... they'll have the same number of guys bailing for jetblue, Delta or whomever as every other regional... plus they'll have guys going to AA.... so, upgrade quick, shop yourself around, but have a slot at AA as a fallback...

just be hired before Oct 11,2011

07-19-2011 | 07:47 PM

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Ill be honest, im more concerned about not having a job in 6 months. If a divesture happens do you really think eagle can compete cost wise with other regionals? Eagle pilots will soon join the the rest of the industry in their dislike for airlines like Mesa.

07-19-2011 | 07:58 PM

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It feels to me like a lot of posturing and hype. Ive followed this stuff for several years and if you search on google you can find lots of past news stories that had the same tone. I found one from 2008 that read almost exactly like what we are hearing. The only reason the divesture ever comes on the table is that the shareholders want to hold the board accountable for not making a big enough profit. Eagle happens to be fairly top heavy on the seniority list, which does hurt profitability SOME. Then again we are still using a computer system from the 60s so there is probably something to be said about lack of efficiency maybe?

Be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.... It will all work out in the end...

07-19-2011 | 07:59 PM

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Also if you read the agreement (if you can get on the alpa website yet), it says that even if planes are outsourced, our pilots are the ones who fly them. That sounds like SOME job security. Maybe not enough for some people though....

07-19-2011 | 08:07 PM

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Man I hope you're right. It may just be my nervousness from previous ventures. I thought I read that our pilots would get preferred hirring at the new carrier if the planes were given to them? I could be wrong but I thought that's what it said.

07-19-2011 | 08:33 PM

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Just to help a little bit about being hired before Oct 11. Is that get yourself a class before Oct 11, because your hiring date is not when you pass the interview is your first day of class.

07-19-2011 | 09:26 PM

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Just to help a little bit about being hired before Oct 11. Is that get yourself a class before Oct 11, because your hiring date is not when you pass the interview is your first day of class.

Realistically unless you want to stay at Eagle for 12-18 years it really doesn't matter.

07-19-2011 | 09:36 PM

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Realistically unless you want to stay at Eagle for 12-18 years it really doesn't matter.

I just was adding what means date of hire for American Eagle. If the person want to be here 12 - 18 years to go to AA, well is his/her problem, not mine.

07-20-2011 | 05:33 AM

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You are assuming that whomever wins a new CPA with American would use Eagle aircraft. It could very easily occur like this: 1. American retires the EMB135's/140's/some 145's and the ATR's 2. Another company comes in with their own CRJ200's/EMB145's and Q400's and uses those. I don't believe the pilots are protected at that point (except for the furlough language). The whole point of diversifying is to decrease costs. Using the same aircraft and the same pilots is not going to decrease costs.